Microsoft has bold expectations for Halo 3

HALO sucks, Counter Strike: Source is 1 TRillion times Better

Well, Chris Di Cesare just may be right. The game may be disappointing but its got great hype to it and its pre-sale numbers are killer. Only time will tell if its good enough to establish a new video game sales record, I am not sure what it even is actually.

The only thing I don't like about news articles like this: The fanboys, and anti-fanboys. Its nice to read stuff like this until it gets "ruined" by the comments people write. Oh well, freedom of speech I guess.

Peace

EDIT: Rewrote first paragraph :P

halo's been fun so far...
hope this one is worth the $$$ as well

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Movie tickets cost $10...Halo 3 will cost $60...

Nice observation Mr. Di Cesare.

Im Not a Fanboy

I agree with xXxBG :D cant go wrong with CSS. and agree with limelight

..and all this hypeness from microsoft is all bull. If anybody remember when Halo 2 was released, Half-Life 2 came out nearly the same time. Microsoft boasted how successful their game was and was like the best in sales etc when really Half Life 2 beat Halo 2's sale by alot yet you dont hear any hype from that. Halo 3 is just lucky that there's no Half Life 3 coming out near it. Im no fanboy or anti-fanboy and im sure Halo 3 will be successful, but i think MS can be very manipulative by what they say.

Originally posted by 26r0cK:

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I agree with xXxBG :D cant go wrong with CSS. and agree with limelight

..and all this hypeness from microsoft is all bull. If anybody remember when Halo 2 was released, Half-Life 2 came out nearly the same time. Microsoft boasted how successful their game was and was like the best in sales etc when really Half Life 2 beat Halo 2's sale by alot yet you dont hear any hype from that. Halo 3 is just lucky that there's no Half Life 3 coming out near it. Im no fanboy or anti-fanboy and im sure Halo 3 will be successful, but i think MS can be very manipulative by what they say.

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ok you are sadly mistaken with sales records i checked and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_video_games according to this site Half lie 4 million Halo 2 8 million so Halo had 2x as many sales
CS is a good game very realistic makes me happy inside but Halo just makes me a little more happy inside i would suggest getting both if you have the money
Halo offers good gameplay with a good choice of weapons now
CS offers fast gameplay also but more realistic and the buying weapons means you have to be good with the basics to be good at all

both take a lot of skill both are extremely fun at LAN parties
i havent played Halo 3 but it will probably get a 9.5 and CS gets an 8

bold. but i dont think there is enough 360's out there to beat the sales of a movie. besides mostly fanboys are gonna by this game. i personally thing the game looks like it belongs on XBoX1 since bungie hasn't figured out how to make a 360 game

And in other news:

Downloading and sharing video games via p2p is driving publishers down to nothing

if you download a game you make us POOR!!! they say.

way to go M$h

@ r3d23 ..yea sales between Halo 2 and Half life 2 are far off now..but i was talkin about when they were both launched Half life 2 made more $ during however many days or weeks it was launched...of course not now.

Can anybody say shootim up clone there a lot of em what makes halo 3 different than 2 new story( if i wanted a story id buy a halo book not a game) and better grafics o and master chef can pull some werd weapons out his 4SS. short opinnion gaming now = new hollywood= major hype Zero deliverence.


Gradical, what we lost was games with creativity i dont think theres a game i can think of that id want to pirate no adays

halo was a good game, halo 2 lost it with the campaign...on the track record it would make me think what might go wrong with this one. halo is a good game, but there are others to be played counterstrike being a great example.

I know exactly what you say, i didnt got a psp untill i knew i can play my rightfully owned copy of fftactis on my psp, as well FFIX, im talking about what? 10year old game or so? and yet thats what gets me to dig my psp, i can play the PSX games that used to rock, and dont bear wit metal gear solid 99 or halo 7, cant they think of anything better than that?

@ Gradical ..ahahah man im playing FFIX all over again too cuz its just a sweet game. Im on disc 3 rite now lol.

I think everyone's missing the point of this article. [Insert Game Title] here, and gaming is becoming more mainstream, as advertisers race to either promote the game, or promote within the game (Crackdown billboards, or ESPN branding anyone?) The video game industry has become a multi million dollar empire, and they are going with what works, which is exactly what Hollywood does (Anyone see something that was NOT a sequel in theaters this year?) Halo 3 already has a huge marketing campaign with Burger King, and it's not just in the kids meals (like Mario Bros. was for McDonald's back in the day.) I'm sure if we looked at this outside the box, Madden 08 has probably generated quite a bit of cash since yesterday, and I wouldn't necessarily call that a fanboy only title, since celebs play televised Madden tournaments. Ladies and Gentlemen, gaming is no longer just a bit of pop culture, it is now a form of media just like television or the internet. Welcome to the 21st century!

man socom is a game to play,rainbow six vegas,assassins creed,resistace but wtf halo 3 isnt even on that level.the 2nd one was total bullshit and the third one's beta was ultimate crap.it wouldve been a flop but microsoft gots their fanboys hooked.

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Microsoft marketing boss Chris Di Cesare has made some bold statements about the much hyped, upcoming game Halo 3 saying that he believes the game can sell more in one day then the top box office films have made in their opening weekends.

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Keep dreaming & people say Sony make stupid comments.Please first day box office hits would kill anything HALO put out.Just more PR fud from M$.

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man socom is a game to play,rainbow six vegas,assassins creed,resistace but wtf halo 3 isnt even on that level.the 2nd one was total bullshit and the third one's beta was ultimate crap.it wouldve been a flop but microsoft gots their fanboys hooked.

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You right far as game play Halo sucks compared to Socom.If Socom was multi-Platform people wouldn't even think about Halo.

Originally posted by BIGnewb:

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man socom is a game to play,rainbow six vegas,assassins creed,resistace but wtf halo 3 isnt even on that level.the 2nd one was total bullshit and the third one's beta was ultimate crap.it wouldve been a flop but microsoft gots their fanboys hooked.

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same and i can't wait to see there faces when there 360 broke while playing 1 player, so there xblive is f***

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Movie tickets cost $10...Halo 3 will cost $60...

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lol only 60$? in finland halo 3 will cost something like 65€(=something like 88$)

and i have to say that at halo 1/2 are one of the bests game in the history.

I'm not the poster boy for Halo (and actually, I like games like Goldeneye ALOT better) but the article is about Halo and mainstream marketing and revenue. Be excited that video games have come this far. Yes, Halo has alot of hype, but that's all it needs to sell millions of copies.

Zippy - how on earth are Halo and Socom even related? Because they have MULTIPLAYER? Because you can VOICE CHAT? You might as well compare it to Mario Kart or Tetris then for what you're trying to say. Halo is a FPS based on Science Fiction, played either single player, co-op or team play (online.) SOCOM is a realistic military sim, which is played as a team game only (online or offline.)

If you guys are going to complain about Halo, use valid reasons, like "the energy sword is cheap," "I hate the jump button," "People cheat," or my personal reason, "Fanboys play for countless hours and play like *ssholes, thinking their name is Fatal1ty."

Originally posted by xXxBG:

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HALO sucks, Counter Strike: Source is 1 TRillion times Better

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Im sorry but i dont think u have ever really played halo...

Like SProdigy said it hard to compare games because its mostly based on things that you like, some people like sci-fi others like relistic, some like the fact that u can jump while others dont. its all a matter of preference.
I use to love to play halo 2 and i still think its a alrite game but i doubt halo 3 well live up to expetations. People who think that halo 3 is gunna be amazingly good are probally more addicted to the image of halo that ms has given it rather then the actual gameplay.

wheres the hype? people who played halo 1-2/3beta are buying this. why would they buy this if the previous versions/beta were bad

bend over, i got your hype right here

I never could play Halo 1 or 2.

Its the gameplay. I get physically sick.
Motion sickness.
I cannot explain it much more than that. Only a few games do this to me. Pariah and UT Championship as well.
Its almost like i need to take a gravel before playing. I don't even bother with those. It has something to do with the way you move thru the levels. I know someone else who gets ill over watching that game as well. Game looks good, its just i cannot watch it.

Funny thing is...games like this on a PC are okay. UT 2004 is fine. Farcry is fine. Its only on the console. Definetely related to motion sickness. Like sitting on a sailboat in the cabin.

Just curious...does this happen to many others ?

Source sucks and Halo is vastly overrated, but like any B movie that turns a profit they'll sale tickets to the making of it.....uhg....

Originally posted by DXR88:

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Can anybody say shootim up clone there a lot of em what makes halo 3 different than 2 new story( if i wanted a story id buy a halo book not a game) and better grafics o and master chef can pull some werd weapons out his 4SS. short opinnion gaming now = new hollywood= major hype Zero deliverence.


Gradical, what we lost was games with creativity i dont think theres a game i can think of that id want to pirate no adays

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Brother where have you been I thought I was alone with the neo hollywood that is the game industry rant, the late 90's/early 00's saw the end of greatly made games,now adays look comes before all else gamepaly polish and bug work is a after thought...
"50$ bargain bin games are great ZOMG!!":zippydsm

0ldskool, dude listen carefully I had a 360 up until PS3 and i was playing Halo 2 and it just sucks i dont like it. Halo 3 online is 50 player online, while CS is just about any number of people. Plus why the heck would i pay $50 a year for online, when CS its free on steam.Plus its more realistic

P.S. Its only my opinion

Originally posted by xXxBG:

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0ldskool, dude listen carefully I had a 360 up until PS3 and i was playing Halo 2 and it just sucks i dont like it. Halo 3 online is 50 player online, while CS is just about any number of people. Plus why the heck would i pay $50 a year for online, when CS its free on steam.Plus its more realistic

P.S. Its only my opinion

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well Halo sucks compared to every other FPS on the PC so meh

FPS's make me sick too. I feel like barfing every time I play. Thank God I love Socom and third person agrees with my tummy.

I think the motion sickness is related to the GFX engine they used in those game. I get like that two but only about an hour into the game. is it motion sickness or are those games so bad it makes you want to puke. MMM i wonder.

Originally posted by DXR88:

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I think the motion sickness is related to the GFX engine they used in those game. I get like that two but only about an hour into the game. is it motion sickness or are those games so bad it makes you want to puke. MMM i wonder.

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Halo dose not "suck" its jsut a above average FPS,if the fanboys wouldn't make it up as the 2nd coming we'd all be better off.

I have played 1 on PC and playing 2 now on PC (XP that is :P) its still a pretty above average FPS.

Now on the Xbox halo is thusly mediocre I had much more fun with turok back in the day,but on the PC halo is enjoyable.

Yeah. As an avid Halo 1 player and a decent Halo 2 player, some of this hype is a bit overplayed, although, Halo is one of the better games I've played in terms of the FPS genre. I honestly hate Halo 1 or 2 on the Xbox, but they are so much more better when they are on the PC.

I enjoy them because most of the time you get away with things you wouldn't be able to do as a normal environment would allow. So what if it's not realistic? It's a fun game once you get into it.

I'm personally looking forward to Halo 3 because from the looks of things, they brought all the functionality of Halo 1, some of the better concepts of Halo 2 (although not much :P), and the custom attributes applied first to Halo Custom Edition (which is what I play mainly due to the custom maps and weapons).

So, even if someone else enjoys Battlefield 2 or CSS better, I found my own personal niche with Halo... But I'm surely not going to buy a 360 just to play it :P Bungie, take back your game and bring it to the Mac's and PC's first!!

Originally posted by Rikoshay:

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Yeah. As an avid Halo 1 player and a decent Halo 2 player, some of this hype is a bit overplayed, although, Halo is one of the better games I've played in terms of the FPS genre. I honestly hate Halo 1 or 2 on the Xbox, but they are so much more better when they are on the PC.

I enjoy them because most of the time you get away with things you wouldn't be able to do as a normal environment would allow. So what if it's not realistic? It's a fun game once you get into it.

I'm personally looking forward to Halo 3 because from the looks of things, they brought all the functionality of Halo 1, some of the better concepts of Halo 2 (although not much :P), and the custom attributes applied first to Halo Custom Edition (which is what I play mainly due to the custom maps and weapons).

So, even if someone else enjoys Battlefield 2 or CSS better, I found my own personal niche with Halo... But I'm surely not going to buy a 360 just to play it :P Bungie, take back your game and bring it to the Mac's and PC's first!!

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Bungie is MSs bitch so they cant do much of anything since MS owns them.

I wish they would improve on the gameplay,I would like not to drop my dual wiled when I toss a grenade just lower the weapon and toss it and other gameplay tweaks,a solid inventory system like on far cry or what not to manage your weapons would be nice the glitch like weapon management on 2 is kinda a joke...

its a fun game...

ZIppyDSM man you just said halo suked but then it didn't. Man ZippyDSM your confusing.?

Originally posted by DXR88:

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ZIppyDSM man you just said halo suked but then it didn't. Man ZippyDSM your confusing.?

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Halo is a mediocore FPS ,it sucks compared the ebst FPS's.

my quote
"well Halo sucks compared to every other FPS on the PC so meh"


Let me make thigns more confusing On the Xbox Halo is jsut another annoying console FPS(thus it sucks),on the PC its a solid above average but not great FPS.

So it can suck,but on the PC its suck factor is not that bad :P

LOL
really tho if anythign its highly over rated,and the voices in my head talk so much I got myself confused :P

BTW zippykitty has not been on his meds I had a 20 posting fit over bioshock using steam as its copy protection (I hate steam with every fiber of my being) only to find out that retail uses its own stuff D2D has its own and steam uses steam for protection.

Zippy gets his ass handed to him by his own shadow a lot :P

yea,bioshock looked pretty good. but i wonder what the gameplays like. i like your sig, Got Nuts. I just dont find halo on the dilverince factor at all.

Originally posted by DXR88:

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yea,bioshock looked pretty good. but i wonder what the gameplays like. i like your sig, Got Nuts. I just dont find halo on the dilverince factor at all.

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Well Halo has a few thigns I like level design and gameplay,the AI is smart enough and can be down right funny,thos lil bastards are a riot,I really enjoyed 1 on the PC it was good and fun,altho there are some tweaking balancing issues that need to be dealt with,I loved the indestructible vehicles I was not to happy with the the carry limit.

Halo 2 is weak...

Have you played farcry?

I wish they would make a Carry system that lights you hold 6 light weapons,4 medium or 2 heavy,this why I can hold onto 3 or 4 weapons and not be forced to hold acuple,I found that so strange when the MC is a freaking cyborg yet his melee hits are puny and he cant dual wield a shotgun...

The next thing u will hear about this game is that they will make it in to a movie and it will be as lousy as DOOM was.

Can some one tell me why they decided not to make Halo 3 for the first Xbox? Thats not right for the people who invested in the first two games but dont own a Xbox 360. Give me a watered down version and I would be happy.

Originally posted by MightyOne:

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I never could play Halo 1 or 2.

Its the gameplay. I get physically sick.
Motion sickness.
I cannot explain it much more than that. Only a few games do this to me. Pariah and UT Championship as well.
Its almost like i need to take a gravel before playing. I don't even bother with those. It has something to do with the way you move thru the levels. I know someone else who gets ill over watching that game as well. Game looks good, its just i cannot watch it.

Funny thing is...games like this on a PC are okay. UT 2004 is fine. Farcry is fine. Its only on the console. Definetely related to motion sickness. Like sitting on a sailboat in the cabin.

Just curious...does this happen to many others ?

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I don't get motion sickness, but playing it for to long does give me a terrible headache. I have Halo on PC and I like the graphics and what not, but the game itself is kind of lame. If there was no multi-player like there was 10 years ago when the original Doom and Quake came out, this game wouldn't have sold jack.

um doom did have a multiplay lan based system. not internet based. so did quak . lan port on doom 1&2 TNT&plutonium was set to 666 ironic is it not. sorry modderators for the ultra off topic subject

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Originally posted by MightyOne:

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I never could play Halo 1 or 2.

Its the gameplay. I get physically sick.
Motion sickness.
I cannot explain it much more than that. Only a few games do this to me. Pariah and UT Championship as well.
Its almost like i need to take a gravel before playing. I don't even bother with those. It has something to do with the way you move thru the levels. I know someone else who gets ill over watching that game as well. Game looks good, its just i cannot watch it.

Funny thing is...games like this on a PC are okay. UT 2004 is fine. Farcry is fine. Its only on the console. Definetely related to motion sickness. Like sitting on a sailboat in the cabin.

Just curious...does this happen to many others ?

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I don't get motion sickness, but playing it for to long does give me a terrible headache. I have Halo on PC and I like the graphics and what not, but the game itself is kind of lame. If there was no multi-player like there was 10 years ago when the original Doom and Quake came out, this game wouldn't have sold jack.

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DOOM-QUAKE and HALO all use adventure class level design,Quake 2 even more so you can't really dis Halo over most of tis designs you can rail on it with the limited/annoying weapon carry rule it has.

But the MP side pretty much made halo,altho the SP side is not half bad,what halo needs to be prefect is more variety in monsters/things to shoot and weapons I would like to have more control over what he carries (like more than 2 things less than 5 let me chose what he can carry and use with soem forum of quick customizeable inventory thing).....and of coarse more options in control and button mapping.

i still beleave the motion sikness is related to the gfx engiene.

Originally posted by DXR88:

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i still beleave the motion sikness is related to the gfx engiene.

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Somewhat,I ahve a friend who can play most FPSs but the 007/time splitters engine gives him motion sickness I think its due to the wobble effect.

it all depends on what the "brain" sees and can process.

I would like to see in halo more areas to get too inside each map,an example as to what i'm saying is without using cheats or the plasma jump etc,in the courtyard when those two big mongrels with the shields break thru the doors near the beginning of the game when chiefy is in that transport crash,once you're thru it is possable to jump up to the roof tops,basicly stuff like that to flank or suprise the enemy,as for the AI they are just barely average in their action when shot at and need some major work in that area,graphics wise can't imagine what the improvements on the 360 will be it's pretty stunning just on the ol' xpox 1,ZIPPY you're right about the grenade throw crap and droping the weapon is dam gaye & definatley carry more weapons & being able to carry a dam sight more plasma's i love those things they ought to be in every fps game...lol..


EDIT: Forgot to mention i really like the ability to throw grenades without the usual gaye arch line i find it easy to gauge distance at which to throw.

Originally posted by scorpNZ:

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I would like to see in halo more areas to get too inside each map,an example as to what i'm saying is without using cheats or the plasma jump etc,in the courtyard when those two big mongrels with the shields break thru the doors near the beginning of the game when chiefy is in that transport crash,once you're thru it is possable to jump up to the roof tops,basicly stuff like that to flank or suprise the enemy,as for the AI they are just barely average in their action when shot at and need some major work in that area,graphics wise can't imagine what the improvements on the 360 will be it's pretty stunning just on the ol' xpox 1,ZIPPY you're right about the grenade throw crap and droping the weapon is dam gaye & definatley carry more weapons & being able to carry a dam sight more plasma's i love those things they ought to be in every fps game...lol..


EDIT: Forgot to mention i really like the ability to throw grenades without the usual gaye arch line i find it easy to gauge distance at which to throw.

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MMmmmmmm
Ok heres my thought on how Halo should be

first off you get 7 slots to stow crap in,grenades take up a slot (4-6X each,over 12 your a walking grenade and explosions can set your grenades off say 40% to set im off at 12-16 16+ its 60% but WTH your carrying 20+ grenades :P ) light weapons (pistol,E pistol,Machine gun) take up 1 slot each medium (Needle,scoped auto rifle,plasma rifle,energy rifle) take up 2 a slot the heavier weapons take up 3 each you can use the final slot for either more ammo or have some grenades on hand.

Now you can chose to streamline this in the menu and have extra weapons automatically fill the thier counter parts (IE if you have 3 plasma rifles you can chose to cycle to the next or have it drop the used one this can be used for dual wiled of course) for human weapons you simple get more ammo or you may dual wiled of corse.

heres the kicker in order to make this faster for Multiplay you get a menu when you go into the config screen you can setup it to automatically pick up/drop/sort/proportize by toggling what you like more,this can also be used to automatically pick up energy based weapons that have more ammo in them.

I like Halos designs on the weapons for the most part its the delivery that could use work.

I like GOW arch line however when it comes to thos things it should be gamers choice not a fcking default...but I think tis due to low attention span players and overly short games they want people to have a easier time playing it or something.

Hell yeah! i totally forgot that you can't select what grenades you can use that's just amatuerish beyond belief

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Hell yeah! i totally forgot that you can't select what grenades you can use that's just amatuerish beyond belief

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you get a limit of 4 or so each but frankly I would rather have the option of choosing which of the 2 types to have 12 of ya know? if I want to carry 2 energy and 8 frags why not >> (can you tell I like teh grenades?)

Sorry, but personally I enjoy it just the way it is. Carrying all those weapons would make it too inconvenient to switch back and forth between wepons. 4 of each grenade is enough if you know what you're doing with them. Plus it makes it a bit more realistic to drop a weapon during a dual wield to throw a grenade. What you're asking for is more like Half-Life deathmatch or something. The game works fine as it is; it's simple, fast-paced and easy to grasp. Making it more complicated isn't going to make it a better game.

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Sorry, but personally I enjoy it just the way it is. Carrying all those weapons would make it too inconvenient to switch back and forth between wepons. 4 of each grenade is enough if you know what you're doing with them. Plus it makes it a bit more realistic to drop a weapon during a dual wield to throw a grenade. What you're asking for is more like Half-Life deathmatch or something. The game works fine as it is; it's simple, fast-paced and easy to grasp. Making it more complicated isn't going to make it a better game.

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thats why you set the inventory system up first,tis akin to selectable weapons at the start of map on UC or some MP games,you throttle up or down what you want and it deals with everything you can just go about fooling with the basic things,I for one hate the over simplified dual wiled setup and hate that you drop a wepaon to toss a grenade.

An inventory system is not such a bad ieda when you can preset it or customize it to your play style, but I would take simple tweaks over it

1.Frist off I can carry any 4 of any dual wiled I want,and be able to not drop them when I toss a grenade just delay the toss and the weapon being readied(hit the toss grenade button you lower the weapon quickly then toss the grenade then bring the weapon back up you can freely use the other weapon during this).

2.2nd make it where you hold 8-12 grenades in total so on thos single grnade maps you can have a normal ammo count of 1 type of grenades.

and a few other basic tweaks

Hmm... You explained it a lot better the second time around. It would be a bit more convenient to just lower the response time when throwing a grenade when dual wielding. I just remembered that switching between dual-wields and another weapon doesn't work, you still drop a weapon, so they should work on fixing that.

I agree it would be nice to hold more than 4 of each grenade in the Single Player, but still I think 4 of each online is more than enough. People spam too many nades as it is online, and adding anymore would just be overkill.

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Hmm... You explained it a lot better the second time around. It would be a bit more convenient to just lower the response time when throwing a grenade when dual wielding. I just remembered that switching between dual-wields and another weapon doesn't work, you still drop a weapon, so they should work on fixing that.

I agree it would be nice to hold more than 4 of each grenade in the Single Player, but still I think 4 of each online is more than enough. People spam too many nades as it is online, and adding anymore would just be overkill.

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Zippy always makes more sense the 3rd or 4th time around :P

I loved Halo 1 it just hit on all cylinders ya know sure it might could use more polish and a energy cannon(it was in the enemy ranks near the end but you could not get it) but I just love SP game and some of the indestructible vechiles it was like playing int eh sane box when I was 6 or 8 with my army vehicles, Halo 2 just killed the uniqueness Halo 1 had and the lack of polish on what it did have was madding.

And then adding to that last bit add a preset setup where you can layout your top 3 weapon configs so the most you would have to do is pick up a weapon and it was be ready to rock,basically if you have a single or dual wiled weapon your "2ndy" weapons would go to where ever you pick and by pressing a couple buttons at once you can switch between the presets.

Well, from what I've seen in the Beta, and from what I heard from people who have played the Beta (and these are people I play with often in Halo Custom Edition), is that they fixed the broken aspects that were in Halo 2, and that they go so far to say that it's even better than Halo 1. From what I've seen, it seems like it just might be. In fact, if there ever was a reason for me to get a 360, it would be for this game. :D

I know I'm contradicting myself a bit from what I said earlier, but frankly I just can't wait 3 more years to play it on the PC. I need it NAO! :D

Therefore, although it seems a bit over the top, to some people this game fulfills what was set up in Halo 1. I also heard that they reduced the graphics in the multi player mode for more performance, but they added all the nice special effects to the single player mode. But, time will tell how well the final product will be executed.