Prince sues YouTube, The Pirate Bay and eBay

We should be the ones sueing Prince for making such horrible crap.

Wait a minute, stop the presses for a second here. Wasn't Prince the guy who included his new album for free in that one newspaper? Remember the record industry was all mad about that?

Originally posted by esrever:

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We should be the ones sueing Prince for making such horrible crap.

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Is that even possible? Sueing people over national borders? Don't think so. Also, TPB doesn't break any Swedish law so it is going to be tough job. Even the all mighty MPAA/RIAA couldn't do that.

Tough, TPB will have yet another leagl threat to their "legal" -section.

this mulatto transgenger transexual his royal purpleness or should i say pompousness

why dont you sue god while youre at it and jesus too and the cia and whoever invented the internet

What is "Prince"? I don't konw.

The Pirate Bay will not be sued by Prince. He will get a nice F-you letter from them just like the rest.

What kind of moron gives his new CD away for free, then sues people that download it?

well its obvious in this case as to whats going on. Prince has long been removed from the music industry and never had a strong fan base and for that matter is probably coming short on the funding.

so there are most likely one of two reasonings for this - As we all know The pirate bay is International, the likeliness of winning a suit against them is slim to none, look at sony they spens millions in court fees to shut down Lik Sang, As for You tube? whoa playing in the wrong feild there big guy did he not see the Price tag on this site when purchased? and eBay? Come on!

So Either "A" he is launching a suit on the large corporations to get his face in the media again most likely knowing nothing will come of it but knowing any publisity is good publisity

or "B" he's possibly praying his ass off that the larger companies don't want to combat and would be willing to make a settlement hopefully enough to start generating funds again.

Prince is a purple pain in my a$$. He needs to stop confusing us.

Originally posted by BlasterX:

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Is that even possible? Sueing people over national borders? Don't think so. Also, TPB doesn't break any Swedish law so it is going to be tough job. Even the all mighty MPAA/RIAA couldn't do that.

Tough, TPB will have yet another leagl threat to their "legal" -section.

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Wait a tic didn't he change his name legally to a symbol? Well I got a symbol for him.......

'slowly extends second digit on right hand'.....

there's a symbol for ya prince ole boy. Take yer "art" and find one of those 10,000 lakes to jump into!!!

Ahhhhhhh Prince me old boy!

There is only one thing that cums to mind with you and that is everytime I get to cream my fiance!

Thanks for a good song you wrote as I have fu#ked to it many a times and when I take a dump I think of you from now on!

Peace...

Prince?!
Who's he?
Nah,never heard of him.

Originally posted by stavstav:

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why dont you sue... and whoever invented the internet

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Originally posted by esrever:

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We should be the ones sueing Prince for making such horrible crap.

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Why do people get stupid when they get old? Doesn't he realize this could only bring new interest in him by an whole new generation? Why and idiot.

Why do people get stupid when they get old? Doesn't he realize this could only bring new interest in him by an whole new generation? What and idiot.

Why do people get stupid when they get old? Doesn't he realize this could only bring new interest in him by an whole new generation? What a idiot.

whoa whoa whoa, prince is a master musician, he can play over 1,000 instruments. his music is passionate and timeless. little red corvette? kiss? classics. just because he doesnt make poutty death metal or ambient anime background music doesnt mean he sucks. his music has a lot to do with girls and sex, i could see why it would be difficult for most of afterdawns members to relate to it.

cheap-shots defending princes music aside, hes a douche (and an idiot) for doing this and im glad he showed his true colors.

and prince has a HUGE fan base, at least up to this point, hehe. a few years ago didnt he have the no. 1 tour of the summer or something? he doesnt perform often but when he does he always sells out. hes probably tired of not getting any more royalty checks, possibly he didnt manage his finances well. too many purple blouses.

seriously, how could someone so cool turn out to be suck a dick? he might have become bitter since his infant son died of SIDS. Looks like ill have to file him away under the “I really like the music, but I hate the person” folder along with metallica and dr. dre

I can't believe what I'm reading here. You people are truely "retarded." Prince has a right to his music. If he wants to give it away then that's his choice. But people should have some respect & that means they shouldn't vandelize or misrepresent his work. He's not going after individual people like the record company's are, he's going after the entities that are assisting in the misrepresentation of his work.

Plus, he has PLENTY of $ so it's obvious he's not doing this for the $ or for publicity.

If Prince could even decide who he/she/it wanted to be, I'd respect their notion a lot more... But Lets review, shall we?
"Hi, I'm Prince."
"I'm annoucing my Retirement and hereby change my title to 'The Artist Formerly Known As Prince' effective immediately."
"I'm comming back out of retirement and resuming my role as Prince." (Or would that be "Prince whom was previously known as 'The Artist Formarly Known As Prince'"? Cuase that'd be a hard name to call out at concerts, though it would give me and many other people time to vaccate the concert hall...)

This is just one of Hollywood's MANY, MANY half-baked threats. Its just one person blowing smoke over some stupid crap. I mean, I'm a huge Metallica fan, but we all remember how non-dramatic the end result of Metallica VS Napster came out to be...

So to Prince, "Get Over it, and get over yourself. Your crap isn't worth the 4 seconds it would take me to download it, and you're barely worth ranting about."

To Hollywood, "If you don't keep your damn dog off my lawn..."

Prince is a legend... a creative genius. But that's beside the point. If he feels he wants to control how his art is distributed, then he has every right to. I'm AMAZED at the hateful, ignorant things that are posted in this thread, and it makes me wonder about the current state of the "scene". It's crazy - this comes from people who more than likely contribute NO content to the world of entertainment and art, only consume-consume-consume. At least be honest with yourself about "acquiring" someone else's artistic output (content)... it's just disingenuous to not only pretend you have a right to it, but then turn around trash him like that... makes you look like a spoiled punk.

I can't stand militant DRM policies, double-dipping "format re-issues" etc, but I'm under no delusions that I somehow "own" other people's creative output. At least maintain SOME sort of integrity for God's sake.

Yo, wasn't this idiot the one who posted his own songs on p2p I could've sworn he did that and now hes sueing? this guy makes no sense, just like his music...

An friggin symbol is sueing TPB! HA! It is funny that his lawyers and such are actually pursuing this. We know and they know they cant win with international laws, but the symbol has no idea. Prince is the only one getting played here by his lawyers that are taking his money and knowingly not going to win any case!

YouTube = lost cause.
The Pirate Bay = defidently a lost cause.

How is eBay a place for piracy? Last time I checked our fair use for purchased media also included the right to resell it on eBay.
I only once received a pirated copy of a movie from eBay. It was listed as an original. I simply contacted the seller and advised him/her of piracy laws and requested a full refund. Within 24hours I received my full refund.
I know if eBay shuts down their CD/DVD/game section, then they will loose a lot of revenue.

What prince needs to do is follow the RIAA's example and start suing random people. Perhaps he can look through the phonebook for a list of names...

Every time I read one of these I am going to keep posting the same thing over and over.

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Ohhhhh Boo,

Now these people who star in these films and produce them can't by 25 million dollar house and 10 cars worth just as much anymore. Interesting how these people who are fighting against the piracy spend so much money to stop it and it will never happen, instead of trying to prevent much better things in the world such as world hunger and the end of nuclear arms.

No, instead lets set up these agencies to help the rich get richer and keep the poor shoveling the money into their pockets. All while they contribute none of the money to anything relevant other than to themselves and their own well begin.

Screw the Movie and Music Industry!!!!!!!!!

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The Matrix sued Prince for taking the "pink" pill..

I would actually like to take a moment and liken this to an experience I had growing up... It was maybe second grade and we had what was called a "creativity assisgnment" which was to basically construct something elaborate as possible out of whatever we could find. I had managed to find some celephane (two sheets, red and blue), and a fair bit of cardstock and tape, along with the usual assortment of crayons. I began to create a simple pair of 3D glasses out of the material and started drawing a poster using red and blue crayons. Before I had even finished mine, two or three other kids had noticed and started duplicating my project. I complained about this, but the teacher reassured me, "If people like your work enough to copy it, then you should be flattered, not insulted."

So I feel the same should apply. After all, it would be completely different if we were somehow depriving him of his private yaht, hollywood mansion, drugs, alcohol, or millions of dollars. But since all we're really doing is refusing to put our wallets into his bank account, I don't think he should really throw a fit. You never see some homeless guy on a corner in Hollywood going on about how he lost everything because someone decided to share his new album on a torrent site. But every single day you do see some horribly rich person pull up to a law office in Hollywood, hop out of their limo, and discuss what they can do to be richer. Why stop at suing Youtube and The Pirate Bay? Next it will be Yahoo Launchcast, then ifilm, then radio and MTV. So what? I know Prince would like us to swip a credit card through our MP3 players before every song and pay the artist a dollar, but this is real life, not that world of pretend that Prince and Michael Jackson are living in, doing Lord-knows-what with each other...

More still, realisticly speaking, most everything that is posted for sharing will never reach the harddrives of 10,000 computers. So lets compare losing 10,000 album sales out of 3,000,000 to losing your job. They're a thought. If Prince were to make less than 60 million dollars a year, he'd lose his mind. Yet all the while my cousin Denice has slaved away year after year for 15 years raising two kids as a single mom all the while trying to survive on a meager $35,000 a year (which is phenominal for her education level). So please forgive not only me, but the rest of America if we feel that the only victim of our crimes is a person or band who will in now way shape or form be negatively affected by the loss of a small fraction of their yearly income. If they were spending that portion helping anyone other then themselves, I'd feel bad enough to stop, but if I impead on some rich guys ability to buy another fancy imported car for his fleet - I am much more adapted in my Robin Hood mentality to deal with that.

I can say in full honest however that I've never pirated the 'work' of Prince, simply because I would rather be hit by a truck than ride in one where he is on the radio. However I can say that I have downloaded numerous other things ranging from music and videos, to software and hacks. Why? Because everything I download is either a) being "stolen" from a person or company that is already more wealthy than they will ever need to be or b) the thing I download is discontinued and can't be found anywhere except maybe ebay, which of course doesn't profit the artist/company/software manufacturer at all. What we as Americans download is hardly a crime, and if someone wants to be a pain in the ass about it, I think they shouldn't take their frustrations out on the site, but rather go door to freakin door and punch everyone in the face. After one suburb, Prince and anyone else stupid enough to pursue this issue will give up.

As downloaders, Youtube viewers, and eBay purchasers - we cannot and will not be stopped. I've download hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of software alone in the past 10 years (though no one could prove it and I'm hardly credible enough to let my own confession rule against me) and I have no intent to stop. Before the year is out I plan to prehapes break the one million dollar mark. Not bad if I were selling any of this crap, or using it adversly to make profit, but I'm not. Everything I do, as is true with 98% of other downloaders, is keeping it for my private use. Its not even like I'm burning crap to CD and playing it at a party (which people do all the time without managing to break the law).

So Prince, if you want to take your claim up against anyone, join afterdawn and PM me. I'll give you my full name and address and you can come have a heart to heart with me. Bring your laywers. I promise by the time I'm threw you'll each be sweating under the pressure of your own swealtering stupidity - and again, I don't even like your music.

Originally posted by Solo_Tek:

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Now these people who star in these films and produce them can't by 25 million dollar house and 10 cars worth just as much anymore.

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I think YouTube is worse than Pirate Bay. YouTube has a copy of the music video and distributes it for free. On YouTube music search engines like www.tubejuke.com you can get a feel for the massive amount of music videos that is on there...

Originally posted by windsong:

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Originally posted by Solo_Tek:

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Now these people who star in these films and produce them can't by 25 million dollar house and 10 cars worth just as much anymore.

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Instead of 25mill house..theyll have to settle for a 24.9 million house..and 9 cars instead of 10.

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Originally posted by Vicious88:

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I would actually like to take a moment and liken this to an experience I had growing up... It was maybe second grade and we had what was called a "creativity assisgnment" which was to basically construct something elaborate as possible out of whatever we could find. I had managed to find some celephane (two sheets, red and blue), and a fair bit of cardstock and tape, along with the usual assortment of crayons. I began to create a simple pair of 3D glasses out of the material and started drawing a poster using red and blue crayons. Before I had even finished mine, two or three other kids had noticed and started duplicating my project. I complained about this, but the teacher reassured me, "If people like your work enough to copy it, then you should be flattered, not insulted."

So I feel the same should apply. After all, it would be completely different if we were somehow depriving him of his private yaht, hollywood mansion, drugs, alcohol, or millions of dollars. But since all we're really doing is refusing to put our wallets into his bank account, I don't think he should really throw a fit. You never see some homeless guy on a corner in Hollywood going on about how he lost everything because someone decided to share his new album on a torrent site. But every single day you do see some horribly rich person pull up to a law office in Hollywood, hop out of their limo, and discuss what they can do to be richer. Why stop at suing Youtube and The Pirate Bay? Next it will be Yahoo Launchcast, then ifilm, then radio and MTV. So what? I know Prince would like us to swip a credit card through our MP3 players before every song and pay the artist a dollar, but this is real life, not that world of pretend that Prince and Michael Jackson are living in, doing Lord-knows-what with each other...

More still, realisticly speaking, most everything that is posted for sharing will never reach the harddrives of 10,000 computers. So lets compare losing 10,000 album sales out of 3,000,000 to losing your job. They're a thought. If Prince were to make less than 60 million dollars a year, he'd lose his mind. Yet all the while my cousin Denice has slaved away year after year for 15 years raising two kids as a single mom all the while trying to survive on a meager $35,000 a year (which is phenominal for her education level). So please forgive not only me, but the rest of America if we feel that the only victim of our crimes is a person or band who will in now way shape or form be negatively affected by the loss of a small fraction of their yearly income. If they were spending that portion helping anyone other then themselves, I'd feel bad enough to stop, but if I impead on some rich guys ability to buy another fancy imported car for his fleet - I am much more adapted in my Robin Hood mentality to deal with that.

I can say in full honest however that I've never pirated the 'work' of Prince, simply because I would rather be hit by a truck than ride in one where he is on the radio. However I can say that I have downloaded numerous other things ranging from music and videos, to software and hacks. Why? Because everything I download is either a) being "stolen" from a person or company that is already more wealthy than they will ever need to be or b) the thing I download is discontinued and can't be found anywhere except maybe ebay, which of course doesn't profit the artist/company/software manufacturer at all. What we as Americans download is hardly a crime, and if someone wants to be a pain in the ass about it, I think they shouldn't take their frustrations out on the site, but rather go door to freakin door and punch everyone in the face. After one suburb, Prince and anyone else stupid enough to pursue this issue will give up.

As downloaders, Youtube viewers, and eBay purchasers - we cannot and will not be stopped. I've download hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of software alone in the past 10 years (though no one could prove it and I'm hardly credible enough to let my own confession rule against me) and I have no intent to stop. Before the year is out I plan to prehapes break the one million dollar mark. Not bad if I were selling any of this crap, or using it adversly to make profit, but I'm not. Everything I do, as is true with 98% of other downloaders, is keeping it for my private use. Its not even like I'm burning crap to CD and playing it at a party (which people do all the time without managing to break the law).

So Prince, if you want to take your claim up against anyone, join afterdawn and PM me. I'll give you my full name and address and you can come have a heart to heart with me. Bring your laywers. I promise by the time I'm threw you'll each be sweating under the pressure of your own swealtering stupidity - and again, I don't even like your music.

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Thanks ^^

Originally posted by Vicious88:

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I complained about this, but the teacher reassured me, "If people like your work enough to copy it, then you should be flattered, not insulted."

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if we were somehow depriving him of his private yaht, hollywood mansion, drugs, alcohol, or millions of dollars.<snip>...some horribly rich person..<snip>...If they were spending that portion helping anyone other then themselves, I'd feel bad enough to stop,

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Just to clarify the comment I posted earlier... I'm not criticizing the artist side of prince. There's no doubt he's talented, which is why so many people "have" heard of him. I'm criticizing his actions... I mean look at some of the decisions he made.

1) First he wanted to change his name to a symbol. This didn't work so he changed his name back to "Prince".

2) He decided to give his album away for free, clearly missing an opportunity to get paid. Now he's suing to get paid.

Now, I do agree with his statement and the need to fight against piracy. However, there are better methods out there. Prince needs to seek these methods out and start making better decisions.

Originally posted by HDextreme:

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1) First he wanted to change his name to a symbol. This didn't work so he changed his name back to "Prince".

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2) He decided to give his album away for free, clearly missing an opportunity to get paid.

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Now, I do agree with his statement and the need to fight against piracy. However, there are better methods out there.

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Originally posted by kishan73:

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I can't believe what I'm reading here. You people are truely "retarded." Prince has a right to his music. If he wants to give it away then that's his choice. But people should have some respect & that means they shouldn't vandelize or misrepresent his work. He's not going after individual people like the record company's are, he's going after the entities that are assisting in the misrepresentation of his work.

Plus, he has PLENTY of $ so it's obvious he's not doing this for the $ or for publicity.

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I don't understand why anyone would want to pirate music by Prince??

Originally posted by transl8r:

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I don't understand why anyone would want to pirate music by Prince??

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Originally posted by Snatched:

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Why do people get stupid when they get old? Doesn't he realize this could only bring new interest in him by an whole new generation? Why and idiot.

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Originally posted by Snatched:

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Why do people get stupid when they get old? Doesn't he realize this could only bring new interest in him by an whole new generation? Why and idiot.

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posted 3 times-maybe Snatched is a little senile,lol

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Clever, sorry Snatched looks like I may be the senile one;)

Originally posted by veyron:

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Clever, sorry Snatched looks like I may be the senile one;)

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This comming from they guy that did not make a decent hit in a long time the last album he recently made only had one memorable track musicology and that was it. He already has made enough money and is still doing so i dont see the problem.

I have feeling this will show up in the legal threats section..Yay now for some laughing at Prince.

Originally posted by borhan9:

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He already has made enough money

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It's obvious you people have no idea about Prince or what's going on with him and the music industry. Maybe I can clarify a few things for all of you.

1. He had a disagreement with his publisher/producer so he wanted to stop touring but since he was under contract he would have been sued. So, he changed his name in order to be able to perform while avoiding a law suit. Once you sign with someone, they own your name and image.

Also, there was a period when one of the producers went to the judge and blocked him from changing his name and forced him to perform so he wrote the words SLAVE all over his body & face. Afterwords, the company cancelled his contract.

These tactics that he's used have been successful for him in regards to renegotiating his contract. At one point, he was Vice President of Warner Music and brokered a multi-million dollar deal. All of which was short-lived.

2. He's only suing company's that distribute pirated music. He has a right to his music.

Well heres my thoughts:
1. He has a right to protect his copyright on his music.
2. He is just throwing money at a lawsuit against a company that has held it's own many times before. Because TPB will probably win, Prince is just throwing his money at them which will result in his mattress being only a hundred miles minus one inch off the ground instead of a hundred miles off the ground.

Prince, my man, don't be a douche.

PROBLEM SOLVED !!!

Don't buy, don't listen, anything that has Prince to do with. then will see who loose what !!!

I am and was not Prince fan of his music anyway. Prince has not even got a penny from me, beacuse I have not even wasted my time listen to his music. Crappy music anyways downfall.

please people use spell check, some of the posts really "corn fuse" me. Also, I have never been a fan of Prince. Wasn't he the one that sang purple rain or was that Tiny Tim?

Originally posted by wicca:

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please people use spell check, some of the posts really "corn fuse" me.

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What is Prince?... homo, gay, trans...uhmm, I'm "corn fuse" too. ha..ha..ha

haha let him throw his money away at Web Sheriff, who im sure justified their services by claiming that all this piracy was loosing him X figure of money and then said we can run this campaign for you for y ammount.

Who is guessing that Y was less than X.

Really let him waste his money as do you really think that paying web sherrif money is going to have any impact thats going to ever make him more money then him payed them is very very miss guided.

look at this page:

http://www.websheriff.com/outlaws.htm

i wonder if all these people are their clients, do they have the rights to use there images, does britney know they are displaying booby pictures of her on their site.

"SLAVE", yes, I'll have to try that at work when they call me back. Received a big 12 cent raise this year. All industry in this area is moving out. What is the secret to making a million? Must have missed that one. Going to have to learn to play a guitar and write my songs, too old to be an athlete. Can you get a good start on Myspace or Youtube? What ever happened to Tiny Tim? Boy? George is still around? Do U really want to hurt me? Or is it an Alpha's gene trait? Prince created some good content, just as B. Spears.

I have never been able to stomach Prince or his music, although Purple Rain was possibly good example of its era. Its funny though, one minute he's giving away all his stuff with British newspapers and then suddenly he's going to sue several organisations which are giving him publicity. Audio and video quality on You Tube etc is not HD by any stretch of the imagination so why his oscillating behaviour from one extreme to the other. Perhaps he is bi-polar or suffere from attention deficit disorder, but who can say for sure. My advice to You Tube is pull all his stuff and the sooner the better. Dont let him exploit you to sell his turgid doggerel. My advice to Prince however is that maybe he could take up painting as this would be quieter and more calming.

WOW! Plazma247, that Websheriff site sure is full of pigpoop. Someone should hack it and paste swatstikas all over their background. And if that's Britney with her boobs, they're really sad.

lol at the bottom of the page on websheriff intro page it says something about using legal music or some s*it, well... any ways if you click the link you can eaysly save the page and bota boom bota bing free music! even if it is the world's worst band!

HAHAHA good one epest i didnt notice that PMSL the YMCA, says a lot about web sheriff. haha

Also just looked on ebay and found:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/PRINCE-PLANET-EARTH-ALBUM-NEW-CD-10-TOP-TRACKS-LOW-P-P_W0QQitemZ290160797928QQihZ019QQcategoryZ1049QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

So they cant be doing a very good job, lol

Some people are just megalomaniacs and feel a need to try to control every aspect of their lives even things that are out of their hands more or less. I'm going to be the one to actually admit to liking Prince's music despite his freakish behavior. It's too bad all his efforts to reignite his career are going to be totally stifled by this action just like 'mullet-baby' Lars Ulrich and his crybaby incident that more or less ruined Metallica's reputation. Oh well it's his choice to make. It's not the eighties any more Princy!

wow your right plazma247 i saw his cd going for a penny man this guy has worse sells than britney spears.... although her ex-bf had sales worse than prince i don't even think f-fed sold over 2k albums!

As they have now taken that Ebay item down, is it possible that websheriff were notifed when i flagged it here.... if so who do i send my bill 2 hey ???

My mistake its still there, lol.

You know that this story would make more since if Prince teamed up with Media Defender... they are the guys that take down torrent trackers....bas*ards

Also there is 1 alright song by prince... Pussy control

lol, Kanye West the bible boy makes fun of prince in his new song Stronger!