40GB PlayStation 3 coming to the US in November?

Is this surprising to anyone? I'm not. The only thing I am actually surprised about is that this isn't coming packaged with Spider-man 3, unless it's already been announced that Spidey 3 is coming packaged with another PS3 model. I dunno. Oh well. Who the hell cares. I already have a PS3.

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40GB model will retail for $400 USD and have the same features as its brother model in the UK meaning less USB ports and no backwards compatibility for PS2 games

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Less USB ports I can deal w/; zero backwards compatibility?!? I'll pass as I still like playing a few of my PS2 games such as GT4.

I would buy this but the price would have to be around $200 if it has no backwards compatibility for PS2 games. I say the PS3 still cost to much.

how $200 if a ps2 costs 100 less than that.ps3 kills ps2 on all levels except games but right now that acceptable.so i think 350-400 is reasonable.

m$ are adding features and cutting costs, sony are cutting features to cut costs.

how is reducing the game catalouge from 4000+ to under 70, with only a handful worth even a passing glance going to help exactly? the 360 is still £100 ($200) cheaper in the uk with a huge selection of games and a thriving second hand market sony really needed to fix the b/c thing as that and price was the continued public annoyances. so seems they are cutting b/c completely all the early adopters better say goooooddddddbyyeeeeeee to any more firmware updates regarding ps2 games!

$200 and not a penny more !!1!

@ nobrainer ..oh is M$ adding b/c for xbox360 then?? yea um..no. Cuz im sure if xbox360 had that then it'd about around the same price as this PS3 model. And why would you add the PS1 and PS2 catalough of like 4000 to PS3 catalouge to 70?? its a PS3 firstly, not a PS2. They have PS2's for like 130$ for those 4000.

I kno losing those features on the PS3 sucks big time but im sure Sony thought hard about it to try and get the PS3 down to that price. Cut them some slack. People kept complaining about the price since day one, well here's a competetive price, yet sum still complain. Sum dun wanna pay more than 200$ i see, well if thats so then the price of the Xbox360 should be 100$ and not a penny more!!!!

I'm not complaining $400 is a competetive price, but $200 is just what I think a PS3 with no backward compatibility is worth. I think a PS3 with backwards compatibility is worth $300. Thats is just what I would pay for one.

LMAO

$400 in the USA and 50% more in the UK @ £299 = $600.
No doubt it's the 'reward' for the UK's fanclub.
ROFLMAO.

In fact £299 = slightly more than $600, I see they didn't dare try and flog off this new low spec player in the USA for the same money that they charged for the much higher spec'd original 60gb model one year ago!......and no taxes and import duties are not $200's worth.

Still I guess the fact that they announced this sku before the Nov deadline means there's no chance of the 'profile 1.1' Blu-ray spec appearing on the PS3 for some time.

Nevermind if the best selling Blu-ray player can't meet the next 2 stages of the Blu-ray specs, eh?

(cue the Sony/PS3/Blu-ray fanclub trying to pretend this should really be all about the XBox and what MS are doing)

Suckers

Why is there no backward compatibility? It's now software based not hardware based (emotion chip). What the hell does that cost them to include it? what a rip!

Originally posted by ChiknLitl:

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Why is there no backward compatibility? It's now software based not hardware based (emotion chip). What the hell does that cost them to include it? what a rip!

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I agree. Why go out of their way to make your system less cool and user friendly just because it is cheaper. We all know that most ps3 users showed loyalty and have a ps2, but now you have to hook up BOTH systems is you want 'backwards' compatibility.

I understand 40gb and no usb, but why strip the ps2 compatibility, probably to get people to buy more ps3 games.

I just don't get it.

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@ nobrainer ..oh is M$ adding b/c for xbox360 then?? yea um..no. Cuz im sure if xbox360 had that then it'd about around the same price as this PS3 model. And why would you add the PS1 and PS2 catalough of like 4000 to PS3 catalouge to 70?? its a PS3 firstly, not a PS2. They have PS2's for like 130$ for those 4000.

I kno losing those features on the PS3 sucks big time but im sure Sony thought hard about it to try and get the PS3 down to that price. Cut them some slack. People kept complaining about the price since day one, well here's a competetive price, yet sum still complain. Sum dun wanna pay more than 200$ i see, well if thats so then the price of the Xbox360 should be 100$ and not a penny more!!!!

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I'm sure it would be cheaper if it wasn't a "Blu-Ray Trojan Horse". And BTW, MS has been adding BWC for months now based on consumer demand. Just pick up any video game mag and see.

If you can live without Blu-Ray, want a console under $200 and want to play the best games available for PS3... then buy a PS2 and stop whining!

Originally posted by ChiknLitl:

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Why is there no backward compatibility? It's now software based not hardware based (emotion chip). What the hell does that cost them to include it? what a rip!

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well does this answer your question, cutting costs?

Sony Could Run BC On 40GB PS3s. They Just Don't Want To.

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This whole backwards-compatibility thing on the new 40GB PS3 is a pinch confusing. Why, exactly, can't the new model run PS2 games when the old one could? Tired of asking questions of the night, I instead asked SCEE, who fired back a super-detailed, super-helpful guide to the 40GB's BC capabilities. Which is published in full after the click. For now, though, let's just focus on the part where they tell us they could run PS2 games on the 40GB PS3. They just can't be bothered:

The 40GB model, to be launched in Europe on 10th October, is a new model and is not equipped with any of the semi conductors from the PS2, and backwards compatibility would therefore have to be achieved by software emulation alone. The sheer numbers of PS2 titles available, together with the increased complexity of using a software only solution for each and every title means that to ensure accurate software emulation for the majority would be technically challenging, time consuming and costly. As we have mentioned on several occasions, our engineering resources are now focused on developing new and innovative features and services for the PS3 and, as a result the 40GB model does not have backwards compatibility with PS2 titles.

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it must suck now to own a b/c ps3 that will not get any more ps2/1 updates as its not worth the cost, so much for the loyal fans eh.


@ SProdigy

i'm making a business statement, i would not purchase a ps3 or a blu-ray or any other sony product ever again on principle after all the anti consumer tactics they have used recently and i certainly will never purchase any of their drm'ed media.

I'm not buying a PS3 until it's hacked... That's why I went with a 360 first. Wait, did I say hacked? I meant until it's packed. Yea packed... with um, 5 free games or something. Yea packed with games.

Who cares about the b/c anyway. PS1 games look like crap and the ps2 games look grainy on the PS3. Quit living in the past and move on to the new games. Or if you really want to play the older ones, play them on your PS2. I sold my PS2 with all those old crappy games any ways and I can say without a doubt good riddance.

It's funny how the Sony zealots praised Sony for hardware based BC and slated Microsoft for their iffy software solution.
Then Sony decided that a software solution was more profitable for them and finaly giving BC up completely.Certainly sends out all the right messages eh!
Pure delusions that Sony cared about it's fanbase,that they would maintain compatibility with the whole Playstation family.
It was just too much hype that couldn't be maintained.
Just like the 1080P games at 120fps that CELL could theoreticaly handle that never came to fruition.
All I ever saw was Sony worried about the lack of PS3 titles and the massive problems developers were having developing titles with impending delays.The costly hardware based BC to provide some games in the meantime was a band-aid solution at best.
Sony's resources are looking thin.No real price cuts,delayed games,delayed HOME network service,no news of cheaper 65nm chipset production to lower the cost of hardware to the consumer and the expensive marketing that has to continue to compete with HD-DVD could all end in tears if consumers decide that HD is not all that after all.

MS still has manufacturing issues they have not dealt with >>, the build quality on the 360 was always wonky thus cheaper... but the problem with the PS3 is the crack smoking CEOs so we finally give it up and make a 400$ PS3 but we hate software emulation and not going to provide support for this unit line....

Ya know sony can suck it down I have had enough of their BS.

If they launch a normal PS3 with a smaller HDD for 400 sure fine I'll bite until then I plan on buying a modded unit in a year or 2...

I just don't see what the big deal is because if you were able to play PS2 games on PS3 im sure it will be something else everyone would be crying about Sony didn't do, I see it like this, if you have a ps2 already and you have a ps3 im sure you have that ps3 hooked to a HDTV with lots of connections, if not why have a ps3 with a crappy Tv? I know alot of underground gamers like full round compatibility or just able to play their older games on a newer system, but Sony is losing game sale so I guess they are trying to boost sales with no PS2 able to play on the PS3. I think the price is worth getting a PS3 that I might be doing now since the price has gone down enough......Oh btw go 360

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I just don't see what the big deal is because if you were able to play PS2 games on PS3 im sure it will be something else everyone would be crying about Sony didn't do, I see it like this, if you have a ps2 already and you have a ps3 im sure you have that ps3 hooked to a HDTV with lots of connections, if not why have a ps3 with a crappy Tv? I know alot of underground gamers like full round compatibility or just able to play their older games on a newer system, but Sony is losing game sale so I guess they are trying to boost sales with no PS2 able to play on the PS3. I think the price is worth getting a PS3 that I might be doing now since the price has gone down enough......Oh btw go 360

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Sorry they innovated BWC to toss it out now is weak I still hate MS for screwing it up, there is no excuse either you have it or do not there is no in between....

Sony has sold over 100 million PS2 so whats the big deal? Your buying a PS3 not PS2,must people already own a PS2 so keeping it would be good but all the major titles are coming to PS3 not PS2.Some people on this board never had any intent to buy a PS3 from the start,thats why they are whining like a little girl.Do us all a favor if you no going to buy one just shut-up & don't post.There are a lot of people that are looking forward to buying this system like me.

Originally posted by 24Lover:

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Sony has sold over 100 million PS2 so whats the big deal? Your buying a PS3 not PS2,must people already own a PS2 so keeping it would be good but all the major titles are coming to PS3 not PS2.Some people on this board never had any intent to buy a PS3 from the start,thats why they are whining like a little girl.Do us all a favor if you no going to buy one just shut-up & don't post.There are a lot of people that are looking forward to buying this system like me.

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Your spending 300+ to get a system that was made with quality and BWC in mind(MS 360 less so) oh sorry we are dropping features because we can, sorry no excuse.... I refuse to put up with the anal carnage corporate mentality, either they deliver or I boycott their sorry asses.

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Originally posted by 24Lover:

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Sony has sold over 100 million PS2 so whats the big deal? Your buying a PS3 not PS2,must people already own a PS2 so keeping it would be good but all the major titles are coming to PS3 not PS2.Some people on this board never had any intent to buy a PS3 from the start,thats why they are whining like a little girl.Do us all a favor if you no going to buy one just shut-up & don't post.There are a lot of people that are looking forward to buying this system like me.

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Your spending 300+ to get a system that was made with quality and BWC in mind(MS 360 less so) oh sorry we are dropping features because we can, sorry no excuse.... I refuse to put up with the anal carnage corporate mentality, either they deliver or I boycott their sorry asses.

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I understand you at lease you come with a valid reason but some people are totally over reacting Sony never said they was stopping BC.You can get a 80 gig version that has the software emulation.Which will be down to 499 when all the 60gig version are gone.

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As we have mentioned on several occasions, our engineering resources are now focused on developing new and innovative features and services for the PS3 and, as a result the 40GB model does not have backwards compatibility with PS2 titles.

The current PS3 system software and future updates will continue to support backwards compatibility for the current 60GB and 80GB models, and publishers can check their new PS2 titles to ensure they play on the 60GB and 80GB models.

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Originally posted by 24Lover:

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Sony has sold over 100 million PS2 so whats the big deal? Your buying a PS3 not PS2,must people already own a PS2 so keeping it would be good but all the major titles are coming to PS3 not PS2.Some people on this board never had any intent to buy a PS3 from the start,thats why they are whining like a little girl.Do us all a favor if you no going to buy one just shut-up & don't post.There are a lot of people that are looking forward to buying this system like me.

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Your spending 300+ to get a system that was made with quality and BWC in mind(MS 360 less so) oh sorry we are dropping features because we can, sorry no excuse.... I refuse to put up with the anal carnage corporate mentality, either they deliver or I boycott their sorry asses.

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I have to say this you, will be boycotting for a longtime bc no company puts out a perfect product without someone crying over what it can or cant do, understand you have your own opinion but not all people worry about those problems they just wont buy or they will.....Its the take it or leave it

24Lover/clethal


I just wonder if you realize the sht they are pulling over peoples eyes over this...its as assnie and insane as the statemeant "the PS3 is probably to cheap".... only its gone from a statement to a goal and one almost met....

Originally posted by ZippyDSM:

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24Lover/clethal


I just wonder if you realize the sht they are pulling over peoples eyes over this...its as assnie and insane as the state meant the PS3 is probably to cheap.... only its gone from a statement to a goal and one almost met....

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Zippydsm I understand what you are saying but for some of the people that just dont care about ps2 able to play on ps3 and only worry about price this makes me or anyone else prephaps now buy one, me personally havent had ps2 since the first xbox so I have no reason for playing ps2 games on ps3.....Companies do stuff like this all the time like laser disc then dvd and now blu ray and HD dvds, we as consumers will either buy it or to say the hell with it that is our choice. It depends on how may people will buy it to see how the company will answer those demands.....Sony may well be making a big mistake but that a gamble these companies make. I agree on what you are saying and I think Sony should have never made a damn blu ray player in a game console to sell movies and not games. Here they want people to buy games but they are adding spiderman 3 with a gaming console? Least M$ added kin kong if you bought the HD player.

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Originally posted by ZippyDSM:

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24Lover/clethal


I just wonder if you realize the sht they are pulling over peoples eyes over this...its as assnie and insane as the state meant the PS3 is probably to cheap.... only its gone from a statement to a goal and one almost met....

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Zippydsm I understand what you are saying but for some of the people that just dont care about ps2 able to play on ps3 and only worry about price this makes me or anyone else prephaps now buy one, me personally havent had ps2 since the first xbox so I have no reason for playing ps2 games on ps3.....Companies do stuff like this all the time like laser disc then dvd and now blu ray and HD dvds, we as consumers will either buy it or to say the hell with it that is our choice. It depends on how may people will buy it to see how the company will answer those demands.....Sony may well be making a big mistake but that a gamble these companies make. I agree on what you are saying and I think Sony should have never made a damn blu ray player in a game console to sell movies and not games. Here they want people to buy games but they are adding spiderman 3 with a gaming console? Least M$ added kin kong if you bought the HD player.

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Then why not sale it for tis real value at 250 and not at a bloated rate? sorry price V cost this sucks beyond all else the MS hardware issues are almost forgivable compared to this nonsense.

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Originally posted by ZippyDSM:

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24Lover/clethal


I just wonder if you realize the sht they are pulling over peoples eyes over this...its as assnie and insane as the state meant the PS3 is probably to cheap.... only its gone from a statement to a goal and one almost met....

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Zippydsm I understand what you are saying but for some of the people that just dont care about ps2 able to play on ps3 and only worry about price this makes me or anyone else prephaps now buy one, me personally havent had ps2 since the first xbox so I have no reason for playing ps2 games on ps3.....Companies do stuff like this all the time like laser disc then dvd and now blu ray and HD dvds, we as consumers will either buy it or to say the hell with it that is our choice. It depends on how may people will buy it to see how the company will answer those demands.....Sony may well be making a big mistake but that a gamble these companies make. I agree on what you are saying and I think Sony should have never made a damn blu ray player in a game console to sell movies and not games. Here they want people to buy games but they are adding spiderman 3 with a gaming console? Least M$ added kin kong if you bought the HD player.

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Then why not sale it for tis real value at 250 and not at a bloated rate? sorry price V cost this sucks beyond all else the MS hardware issues are almost forgivable compared to this nonsense.

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You can't even buy a standalone HDDVD player for 250 much less a BD Player and gaming system combined. I'm not arguing the format war here I'm just saying cost wise 400 ain't bad.

Originally posted by 24Lover:

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You can get a 80 gig version that has the software emulation.Which will be down to 499 when all the 60gig version are gone.

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- It's $600 right now.

There is nothing official to be said on what will happen to the price except for this repeated fanclub rumour that it might be reduced later.

But that's all it is, mere rumour (wishful 'thinking'?) and no matter how often they repeat it it does not make it fact.

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You can't even buy a standalone HDDVD player for 250

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- Er, yes you can.

The Toshiba HD A2 HD DVD stand-alone is currently on sale for $205 on Amazon USA.

BTW this is disputed news too.

There are several sites saying Sony have no plans to bring the 40gb PS3 to the USA atm.

Here we go again.... Bash, Bash, Bash. This is all RUMERS that you've got your pantys in a knot over. Nobody knows what Sony is going to do untill they do it. Not even the fan club. You guys really need a hobby. You all could try playing video games. Works for me. Oh... Sorry... I see your too busy complaining about them to play them.

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Originally posted by 24Lover:

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You can get a 80 gig version that has the software emulation.Which will be down to 499 when all the 60gig version are gone.

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- It's $600 right now.

There is nothing official to be said on what will happen to the price except for this repeated fanclub rumour that it might be reduced later.

But that's all it is, mere rumour (wishful 'thinking'?) and no matter how often they repeat it it does not make it fact.

Originally posted by OhCrap:

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You can't even buy a standalone HDDVD player for 250

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- Er, yes you can.

The Toshiba HD A2 HD DVD stand-alone is currently on sale for $205 on Amazon USA.

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Well teh fact of the matter is we are gettign a 400-500 range PS3 and its reasonable to see that it will be the 40 no BWC PS3,since its a fact europe got the no hardware BWC PS3 first, if they can sale well at a higher price and lower features there they can do it anywhere it seems.....

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Originally posted by 24Lover:

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You can get a 80 gig version that has the software emulation.Which will be down to 499 when all the 60gig version are gone.

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- It's $600 right now.

There is nothing official to be said on what will happen to the price except for this repeated fanclub rumour that it might be reduced later.

But that's all it is, mere rumour (wishful 'thinking'?) and no matter how often they repeat it it does not make it fact.

Originally posted by OhCrap:

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You can't even buy a standalone HDDVD player for 250

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- Er, yes you can.

The Toshiba HD A2 HD DVD stand-alone is currently on sale for $205 on Amazon USA.

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Actually its listed at 229.88 on amazon and in the description it doesn't say it includes a 7th gen hd gaming system. Go figure. So for the money 400 still ain't bad.

and for about 450 you can hobble together a 360 with a HDVD player :P

I want to see better deals and better quality from both,both Sony and MS are banging the deal mule pretty hard... MS needs to finish up with the hardware issues open up the HDD sony needs to quit dckign with the consumer and release a solid PS3(same as the other PS3 only smaller HDD) unit that dose not cost a mint(under 500).

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Actually its listed at 229.88 on amazon

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- Don't just look at the Amazon supply, it's another 2 suppliers listing them as brand new further down the page.
'wsuraptor' and 'nineriver' both @ $207.
You can even get refurbs for $187.

But today it's updated up a couple of points to $207, not $205.

Either way it's nothing like $250.

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and in the description it doesn't say it includes a 7th gen hd gaming system.

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- Er, what's that got to do with anything.

Your point was about an HD DVD stand-alone's price.

You're the one who brought this up & said you couldn't get an HD DVD stand-alone for $250.

You can.

So why now bring some silly comment about the PS3 into this?

.....and what's the point of it seeing as how it's got bu*ger all in the way of games?

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So for the money 400 still ain't bad.

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- We're all entittled to our opinions.

If you think the basic version of 'the game console with no games' is worth £299/$400 then rock on.

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- Are you sure?

Cos if you're going 'bargain basement on one you surely ought to on the other.
IIRC the new HDMI 'Arcade' 360 & the XBox 360 HD DVD add-on don't come to $450.

This just in: New Sony PS3 Holiday package with Betamax and 5.25 Floppy drives (so you can store all your Kilobytes of data and watch the latest Hollywood flicks... as late as 1984!) It also runs on an Intel 486DX2! (With floating point instructions!) The system will also come with an updated pack-in of an Atari classic, E.T.!

To further cut costs, Sony representatives have stated that this new version of the PS3 will also not include USB ports, WiFi, ethernet ports or any hardware that will allow the system to connect to the outside world. HDMI, Component, S-Video and Composite connections were also left out of the equation as the system will need an RF adapter (sold separately) to connect to your SDTV.

A new version of the DualShock controller supporting rumble will be packaged with the system, though Sony was mum on how it will connect to the console. (Our sources say that the cord is not detachable from the PS3.)

Sony is already filling orders from retailers, and hopes to have this bundle on store shelves before the holiday season. Aptly named the "Playstation Home" bundle, (you can only play this version at "home") Sony is targeting the Xbox Arcade bundle and Nintendo Wii with an entry price of $250.

PS2 games look like crap on a high def television. Regardless of the [sarcastic]upscaling[/sarcastic] that can be done. And you really can't fully appreciate a PS3 game on a standard television. I'm sure that Sony realizes that more and more homes will be going the way of HDTV as time passes. People will realize that the backwards compatibility will look like garbage and not even care anymore. The PS3 is a high def piece of hardware made for high def viewing. Who cares if there are less USB ports? Unless somwhere down the line they are used for a popular game, and for some reason, Sony fails to remember that they cut out some ports and a lot of people would not be able to play the game.

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Here we go again.... Bash, Bash, Bash. This is all RUMERS that you've got your pantys in a knot over. Nobody knows what Sony is going to do untill they do it. Not even the fan club. You guys really need a hobby. You all could try playing video games. Works for me. Oh... Sorry... I see your too busy complaining about them to play them.

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I couldnt agree with you any more right now. I look at it like this if you hate any of these companies so bad why in the hell would you even comment on it. Its really stupid to get bent out of shape over something you will never buy so whats the whole point of complaining if your not interested in what they offer?

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Here we go again.... Bash, Bash, Bash. This is all RUMERS that you've got your pantys in a knot over. Nobody knows what Sony is going to do untill they do it. Not even the fan club. You guys really need a hobby. You all could try playing video games. Works for me. Oh... Sorry... I see your too busy complaining about them to play them.

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I couldnt agree with you any more right now. I look at it like this if you hate any of these companies so bad why in the hell would you even comment on it. Its really stupid to get bent out of shape over something you will never buy so whats the whole point of complaining if your not interested in what they offer?

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I wouldn't say that the 360 is looking to be buyable early mid next year,I dunno when sony will raise from teh ashes it keeps burning itself to much....

why not just get any PS3 and get a large capacity sata notebook hd? i have no ideas as how to tramsfer data from an existing PS3 hd to a high capacity one, but before i even turned on my new PS3 i installed a 160gb. what i fear is that in one of the upcoming mandatory updates we will all loose backward compatability.

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why not just get any PS3 and get a large capacity sata notebook hd? i have no ideas as how to tramsfer data from an existing PS3 hd to a high capacity one, but before i even turned on my new PS3 i installed a 160gb. what i fear is that in one of the upcoming mandatory updates we will all loose backward compatability.

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Sony is back tracking on what the PS3 should be, I can easily see them limiting HDD size and linking it to a upgrade kit or worse yet a premium PSN plan, sony needs to step off the throats users befor its to late.

Nothing new just your average move around the world.

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This just in: New Sony PS3 Holiday package with Betamax and 5.25 Floppy drives (so you can store all your Kilobytes of data and watch the latest Hollywood flicks... as late as 1984!) It also runs on an Intel 486DX2! (With floating point instructions!) The system will also come with an updated pack-in of an Atari classic, E.T.!

To further cut costs, Sony representatives have stated that this new version of the PS3 will also not include USB ports, WiFi, ethernet ports or any hardware that will allow the system to connect to the outside world. HDMI, Component, S-Video and Composite connections were also left out of the equation as the system will need an RF adapter (sold separately) to connect to your SDTV.

A new version of the DualShock controller supporting rumble will be packaged with the system, though Sony was mum on how it will connect to the console. (Our sources say that the cord is not detachable from the PS3.)

Sony is already filling orders from retailers, and hopes to have this bundle on store shelves before the holiday season. Aptly named the "Playstation Home" bundle, (you can only play this version at "home") Sony is targeting the Xbox Arcade bundle and Nintendo Wii with an entry price of $250.

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LOL this system should have been the base model in the first place. STILL overprice though :o