iCloud Communications sues Apple over 'iCloud' name

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Apple officially filed for the trademark in the U.S. and Europe last week.

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They did a product launch and they didn't even bother to check if it was trademarked? I know iCloud.com isn't taken, but that does not mean no one owns the trademark.

Right now some corporate lawyer at apple is thinking, "iForgot".

Blah, this happens when every iDevice is launched. Some troll crawls out from the woods and says "I own the trademark on that." I'm half tempted to create a few dozen "i" businesses of my own, because this looks better than the return on "profitable" .com names.

iCloud Communications is a VoIP solution provider since 1985.

What that says is they changed there name to iCloud. This Stinks.

Their URL is "geticloud.com" Which means they did not or could not get icloud.com. Apple went to the source and bought the domain name for $4 million. Since this company did not sue the previous owner, they probably couldn't.

Since Apple does not provide VoIP services I can't say these people are being pushed out of business that way.

The Wikipedia page states their name is "Cloud Communications" and the history of that page starts: April 29, 2010.

It's another, "Let's get rich off Apple attempt."

Originally posted by KillerBug:

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Apple officially filed for the trademark in the U.S. and Europe last week.

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They did a product launch and they didn't even bother to check if it was trademarked? I know iCloud.com isn't taken, but that does not mean no one owns the trademark.

Right now some corporate lawyer at apple is thinking, "iForgot".

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You of all people know that Apple ALWAYS does "launch first, worry about legal sh*t later" lol

Originally posted by dcmorrow:

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Since Apple does not provide VoIP services I can't say these people are being pushed out of business that way.

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Ignoring the fact that apple has facetime, and that it offers VoIP-only calling, they are still being pushed out of the way. If they had not filed this lawsuit, Apple would have sued them for using the name that Apple stole.

Originally posted by dcmorrow:

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iCloud Communications is a VoIP solution provider since 1985.

What that says is they changed there name to iCloud. This Stinks.

Their URL is "geticloud.com" Which means they did not or could not get icloud.com. Apple went to the source and bought the domain name for $4 million. Since this company did not sue the previous owner, they probably couldn't.

Since Apple does not provide VoIP services I can't say these people are being pushed out of business that way.

The Wikipedia page states their name is "Cloud Communications" and the history of that page starts: April 29, 2010.

It's another, "Let's get rich off Apple attempt."

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A web domain isn't a trademark.

Apple can buy icloud.com but they can't trademark icloud if it's too close to another trademark already in use.

It's the same deal as world wrestling federation was forced to change their name when the world wildlife foundation sued they under trade mark laws.

bringing up Wikipedia is a waste of time as it's all rego'd via the government, and wikipedia doesn't keep any of those records or maintain them.

Wikipedia is a joke...anyone can change whatever they want to whatever they want...go ahead and try it...post that some historical figure was a homosexual pedifile...now it is part of the records!

It is only good for an initial start of research; you have to triple-check anything that you find there, and you have to assume that there are important things not listed there.

Originally posted by SProdigy:

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Blah, this happens when every iDevice is launched. Some troll crawls out from the woods and says "I own the trademark on that." I'm half tempted to create a few dozen "i" businesses of my own, because this looks better than the return on "profitable" .com names.

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And you're an idiot if you honestly believe that ICloud (or any other company with a similar dilemma) are "trolls" crawling out to sue. Cut and dry........YOU CAN'T F'ING TAKE SOMEONE ELSE'S TRADEMARKED NAME. Otherwise, what's the point of TMing? Now, if ICloud Comm didn't actually TM their name then that's different.

I have a hard time believing that Apple didn't do it's homework before embarking on multi-million dollar venture.

Originally posted by KillerBug:

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Wikipedia is a joke...anyone can change whatever they want to whatever they want...go ahead and try it...post that some historical figure was a homosexual pedifile...now it is part of the records!

It is only good for an initial start of research; you have to triple-check anything that you find there, and you have to assume that there are important things not listed there.

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Wake Up!!!

Generally speaking that's NOT how Wikipedia works. Most people are up front and honest. Lying usually only benefits one whom is looking for a tangible gain.

Conspiracy theorist!!!

Originally posted by Azuran:

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I have a hard time believing that Apple didn't do it's homework before embarking on multi-million dollar venture.

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Not how that works either. Small little start-up ventures or people inventing with their own dime will certainly "do their homework" but large corporations will start first and ask questions later so you very well could be mistaken here..........but so could I.

Originally posted by xtago:

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It's the same deal as world wrestling federation was forced to change their name when the world wildlife foundation sued they under trade mark laws.

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Actually it's a little different. World Wrestling Federation was originally the "WWWF" (World Wide Wrestling Federation) then changed to "WWF" (dropping the "wide" and cutting out 4 business partners from whom they leased athletic licenses from.) The newly christened WWF received permission to use those initials from the World Wildlife Fund, with whom already used those initials as part of their trademark.

The use of the WWF trademark came into dispute after the wrestling folks violated the terms of it's use, which included a change of the logo, which is why the "Attitude" version of their marketing must be censored in past videos and any verbal reference to "WWF" is censored out as well. They are allowed to say "World Wrestling Federation" though. (The violation was also in Europe as opposed to US laws.)

After this, they changed their intials to WWE, "Getting the F Out" which is in reference to their publicly traded name "WWFE" (World Wrestling Federation Entertainment, Inc) It would be pretty silly to be "WWE" and "World Wrestling Federation", so they dropped "Federation" from their name and the rest is history.

Oh and the guy who called me an "idiot", um, please refrain from using derogatory terms when someone is voicing their opinion. There are tons of patent trolls around there, and as pointed out here, the company is "Cloud Communications" not "iCloud". I'm pretty sure that Apple could also hunt down anyone using "i" as part of their name as well, since they pretty much have that market cornered, much like McDonald's use of "Mc" on everything from "McNugget" to "McCafe".