Here are the rumored Xbox Next specs

At which point the Radeon HD6670 will be 2 years old. Why don't they just add a GPU that's current around the time of release, (taking into account manufacturing time for launch availability of course)

In other news, go PC graphics !!!

For console graphics to remain relevant compared to PC graphics over the life of the console. An upgradeable graphics chip/card variant is needed. If the console manufactures want to make even more money. Then doing this along with standardized dev tools for the graphics upgrade possibility. Then this would be the best way for consoles to remain relevant in the coming years. Now the biggest issue is the implementation of this. Then again it shouldn't be rocket science to do this.

not getting at launch due to 360 past

Mmmm right...no BWC no buy.

And here we go. This reminds me of the last cycle six years ago wow did AD light up with fan boys from all sides a plenty. Epic bans for flaming ... epic flaming bring it all on!!

Originally posted by ZippyDSM:

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Mmmm right...no BWC no buy.

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You never learn do you Microsoft? Here we go again, they're trying to rush it out as soon as possible just like they did with the 360. Remember the problems with it M$? RROD, no blu-ray. Games are getting more graphically demanding every 6 months, and be it 6 times more powerful or not, I don't see it having a long life cycle if they will be using an outdated GPU. Heck there's even talk of IBM making the CPU's for them (again) and using only 32nm process, which is great but hard not to overlook that other companies will be releasing 22nm cpu's for PC's & phones this year. If you want to make the console next gen, you need to make the hardware next gen as well, not forcing game companies to come up with amazing game engines because of the limited power of the console. I just replaced my dying elite last month, you're going to have to do better than this Microsoft.

Originally posted by mike.m:

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You never learn do you Microsoft? Here we go again, they're trying to rush it out as soon as possible just like they did with the 360. Remember the problems with it M$? RROD, no blu-ray. Games are getting more graphically demanding every 6 months, and be it 6 times more powerful or not, I don't see it having a long life cycle if they will be using an outdated GPU. Heck there's even talk of IBM making the CPU's for them (again) and using only 32nm process, which is great but hard not to overlook that other companies will be releasing 22nm cpu's for PC's & phones this year. If you want to make the console next gen, you need to make the hardware next gen as well, not forcing game companies to come up with amazing game engines because of the limited power of the console. I just replaced my dying elite last month, you're going to have to do better than this Microsoft.

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Arhhh hell i might as well join in,rumour has it the 720 will have an hd dvd as it's drive,neon lights round the fan,a glowing X symbol on top of the unit & when it's starts up there'll be a voice that comes over the speakers saying "smoke'n" & it will do that literally,oh yeah all the 720's will come with a customized fire extinguisher

"Xbox Next (or Xbox 720, whatever you prefer)"

Hmm... How about Microsoft NextBox? Or simply NextBox? It's to the point and anyone who doesn't get it would have to be especially dense.

Originally posted by plutonash:

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There was no blu ray because they supported hd DVD but Sony paid off Warner brothers so they could secure victory in the media format.

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Originally posted by RichardvonBacon:

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Originally posted by plutonash:

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There was no blu ray because they supported hd DVD but Sony paid off Warner brothers so they could secure victory in the media format.

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Or, more likely, because Blu-ray was a superior format.

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Originally posted by plutonash:

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Originally posted by RichardvonBacon:

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Originally posted by plutonash:

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There was no blu ray because they supported hd DVD but Sony paid off Warner brothers so they could secure victory in the media format.

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Or, more likely, because Blu-ray was a superior format.

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If it was so superior, they would not have to pay Warner brothers billions of dollars in fear of losing. Regardless, it doesn't matter. Blu ray will lose this war to digital media in the future.

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I'm honestly surprised it hasn't gotten to the point where you can actually update the GPU yourself. Every game would be able to play on the new XBOX with default settings but you can have advanced settings if you upgrade your consoles GPU...kinda like a PC. Microsoft could make "Xbox only" GPU's and over charge customers for them (as usual) kind of like they did with their HDD's this generation. I just figured the longer a console's life is the longer the company has to make money back on each unit sold at a loss. I can't think of a better way to lengthen the life cycle than to make PC graphics available to consoles. This way the members of the hardcore gaming community who are willing to pay more for things like graphics can have it their way and the average person can just buy the average console. Another thing they could do is when they make another version of their console they could make it more powerful. The launch xbox 720 has the stats above (with the ability to upgrade the GPU) but the new version of the Xbox 720 (comparable to the Elite version in this generation) come with more ram, better GPU, and better processor. If you're already making games for a PC why cant you translate that to another Microsoft product?

Originally posted by dab0ne:

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I'm honestly surprised it hasn't gotten to the point where you can actually update the GPU yourself. Every game would be able to play on the new XBOX with default settings but you can have advanced settings if you upgrade your consoles GPU...kinda like a PC. Microsoft could make "Xbox only" GPU's and over charge customers for them (as usual) kind of like they did with their HDD's this generation. I just figured the longer a console's life is the longer the company has to make money back on each unit sold at a loss. I can't think of a better way to lengthen the life cycle than to make PC graphics available to consoles. This way the members of the hardcore gaming community who are willing to pay more for things like graphics can have it their way and the average person can just buy the average console. Another thing they could do is when they make another version of their console they could make it more powerful. The launch xbox 720 has the stats above (with the ability to upgrade the GPU) but the new version of the Xbox 720 (comparable to the Elite version in this generation) come with more ram, better GPU, and better processor. If you're already making games for a PC why cant you translate that to another Microsoft product?

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There really aren't even any specs in this article other than a guess of a gpu. When I looked at the title of the article I though I was going to see specs on the processor, memory, gpu, storage, etc. I think we'll have to wait a while before we see any real specs to argue about.

.......And remember M$ test this new machine we don't want Red ring of hell again and forget the idea of used games that not play in the new XB720.