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PS2 playback headed back to PS3 via peripheral?

Written by Andre Yoskowitz @ 16 Sep 2010 1:12 User comments (36)

PS2 playback headed back to PS3 via peripheral? Thanks to a Japanese forum poster, we now have concrete evidence that Sony is at least considering creating a peripheral that would give PlayStation 3 owners a way to play their PS2 games.
The new patent filed by Sony Computer Entertainment Japan shows off a "Compatibility Adapter," a peripheral that contains necessary parts to playback PS2 games, but will work when attached to a PS3.

When the PS3 launched in 2006, gamers were given full hardware backward compatibility, but later versions of the console removed the hardware and added software-based emulation instead.

Sony later removed all backward compatibility, in an effort to shed costs.

While the peripheral is interesting, there cannot be too many people still wanting to play PS2 games out there, especially as the console reaches the very end stages of its life.



View the patent here: PS2 compatibility adapter patent (Warning, it's in Japanese)

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36 user comments

116.9.2010 01:54

Figures they would now try and bring the feature back now that the console has been hacked.

216.9.2010 02:48

someone will probably do it for free as a homebrew app

316.9.2010 03:03

Originally posted by elbald90:
someone will probably do it for free as a homebrew app
It might be a bit more than a piece of code; the emotion engine may be old, but it is still a lot more complex than the newest teensy++.

416.9.2010 03:23

Erm, I know a LOT of people who still want to play PS2 games, myself included. Saying that "there can't be that many people who still want to play PS2 games" is a gross generalization and is wholly untrue.

516.9.2010 05:13

Actually, there is no official word on this being released; sony is simply showing us all that they could do it if they wanted to, but refuse to because people would like that...and Sony refuses to bow to the desires of their customers.

616.9.2010 06:33
davidike
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this appears to be a typical scum corporations usual attempt to bloc 3rd party add-ons.

716.9.2010 08:47

Haha I never lost the ability to play PS2 games as I still have the early model which is working just fine for me still.

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816.9.2010 08:47

again its the old story of those in control that could do something that would apeal to the masses like being able to play our old ps2 games on the ps3 but at a cost they ( proved it was do-able from the start then they dropped it when it became an issue but they dont want homebrew to work well it sounds like sony needs to make a choice either provide the end user with what they want at a cost to that end user (which most will pay) or alow homebrew to be used either way everyone will get to play their games I have rebuilt my ps2 3 or 4 times already and I own around 40 games I just dont want them to become costers or throw them on ebay for nothing more then a few bucks as a trade off of being a loyal supporter of sony and the ps* line.... sony should really rethink thier stand on this befor everyone feels that a WII or xbox is a better choice..

916.9.2010 09:57

Originally posted by 5fdpfan:
Haha I never lost the ability to play PS2 games as I still have the early model which is working just fine for me still.
Have fun when it YLOD's.

1016.9.2010 10:38

Originally posted by Mik3h:
Originally posted by 5fdpfan:
Haha I never lost the ability to play PS2 games as I still have the early model which is working just fine for me still.
Have fun when it YLOD's.

I also have the old one as well for 3 years now and has never had any problems at all. But I'm not one of the people who want to play ps3 games on mine.
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1116.9.2010 10:47

so people with massive collections of ps2 games... why not just play them on the PS2?

1216.9.2010 11:18

<i>there cannot be too many people still wanting to play PS2 games out there, especially as the console reaches the very end stages of its life. </i>

One of the most idiotic statements ever.

1316.9.2010 13:14

I still have 10 PS2 games I am working on and more to get, WTF. The average sheeple probably dose not know what a PS2 is but us black sheep are pissed about it!!

Now when do we get a PSP emulator on the damn thing?

1416.9.2010 18:51

Originally posted by shaffaaf:
so people with massive collections of ps2 games... why not just play them on the PS2?
PS3 has HDMI support, i don't even have a tube tv in my house anymore. makes it difficult for me to play my PS2 as YPbPr never worked without the adapter at least for me it didnt.

1516.9.2010 22:28

Originally posted by stripelord:
Erm, I know a LOT of people who still want to play PS2 games, myself included. Saying that "there can't be that many people who still want to play PS2 games" is a gross generalization and is wholly untrue.
According to marketing polls, only around 15% of PS3 owners and prospective owners really cared about PS2-compatibility...which was likely the biggest nail in its coffin before.

1616.9.2010 23:28

Originally posted by xnonsuchx:
Originally posted by stripelord:
Erm, I know a LOT of people who still want to play PS2 games, myself included. Saying that "there can't be that many people who still want to play PS2 games" is a gross generalization and is wholly untrue.
According to marketing polls, only around 15% of PS3 owners and prospective owners really cared about PS2-compatibility...which was likely the biggest nail in its coffin before.
Exactly right, and I can almost guarantee that those numbers are even lower now. The only gross generalization is thinking that because you and your friends want to play PS2 games on the PS3 that 35 million other owners do, as well.

1716.9.2010 23:29

Originally posted by xnonsuchx:
Originally posted by stripelord:
Erm, I know a LOT of people who still want to play PS2 games, myself included. Saying that "there can't be that many people who still want to play PS2 games" is a gross generalization and is wholly untrue.
According to marketing polls, only around 15% of PS3 owners and prospective owners really cared about PS2-compatibility...which was likely the biggest nail in its coffin before.
Ya so? they poll new game dewbs who watch crappy film and are the reason we can't have qaulity in media anymore.....

1816.9.2010 23:44

Originally posted by xnonsuchx:
Originally posted by stripelord:
Erm, I know a LOT of people who still want to play PS2 games, myself included. Saying that "there can't be that many people who still want to play PS2 games" is a gross generalization and is wholly untrue.
According to marketing polls, only around 15% of PS3 owners and prospective owners really cared about PS2-compatibility...which was likely the biggest nail in its coffin before.
That is just the thing..."Only 15%"...only about 5% care about 3D bluray support, but they include that. Only about 0.5% wanted a second link to the PSN store, but there it is. Only about 80% want cross-game-chat, and we still don't have it.

In the US alone, there were over 10 million fat PS3s sold...for this one portion of their market, "only 15%" is 1.5 million people. That is more than the population of some small countries, just from the sales of the fat in one large country. Sony chooses to call them insignificant...and when they take away the features you like, they will call you insignificant too.

1917.9.2010 00:03

Originally posted by KillerBug:
Originally posted by xnonsuchx:
Originally posted by stripelord:
Erm, I know a LOT of people who still want to play PS2 games, myself included. Saying that "there can't be that many people who still want to play PS2 games" is a gross generalization and is wholly untrue.
According to marketing polls, only around 15% of PS3 owners and prospective owners really cared about PS2-compatibility...which was likely the biggest nail in its coffin before.
That is just the thing..."Only 15%"...only about 5% care about 3D bluray support, but they include that. Only about 0.5% wanted a second link to the PSN store, but there it is. Only about 80% want cross-game-chat, and we still don't have it.

In the US alone, there were over 10 million fat PS3s sold...for this one portion of their market, "only 15%" is 1.5 million people. That is more than the population of some small countries, just from the sales of the fat in one large country. Sony chooses to call them insignificant...and when they take away the features you like, they will call you insignificant too.
Ya but smaller counties are not buying new games twice... as if modern film was not bad enough >>

2017.9.2010 09:26

To echo a strong sentiment, I couldn't care less about 3D.

While backwards compatability and x-game chat would be nice, what I'd really like to see is a web browser which doesn't make me want to throw the controller at the TV! Surely Sony could farm out the redevelopment of of the current pile of donkey crap to someone like Mozilla or Google (Google search is already intergrated in the XMB), then i could go back to web browsing in the comfort of my living room rather than hidden away in the home office.

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2117.9.2010 11:25

I rather play the remastered collections, like God of War I and II and the upcoming ICO and Shadows of the Colossus collection. For one, the collections are remastered in HD and the second reason is that the collections have trophies support.

2217.9.2010 14:43

Gnawnivek

All I can say is this
*NSFW*
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1A-Ymf1VYY


2317.9.2010 15:25

Ah cute ZippyD :)

Yeah whatever, for some reasons, I get high when I hear the plinking sound of the trophies. Unlocking the elusive platinum trophy is total awesomeness. Okay, that sounds like a total dork, lol. But I'm enjoying my games with trophies/achievements. Think of this way, at least I'm not on drug... Oh wait, that didn't come out right, lol.

2417.9.2010 15:40

Originally posted by Gnawnivek:
Ah cute ZippyD :)

Yeah whatever, for some reasons, I get high when I hear the plinking sound of the trophies. Unlocking the elusive platinum trophy is total awesomeness. Okay, that sounds like a total dork, lol. But I'm enjoying my games with trophies/achievements. Think of this way, at least I'm not on drug... Oh wait, that didn't come out right, lol.

I don't mind difficulty markers but most achievements,ect are dumb....

2517.9.2010 15:52

True... not all trophies/achievements are meaningful. There's absolutely no reason to hate them though, even if you don't collect any at all. The wording of some trophies/achievements are funny as hell, it's like free little side jokes come with the game if you want to look at it that way. Metal Deer Solid in Cabela games, isn't that cute :)

2617.9.2010 16:03

"While the peripheral is interesting, there cannot be too many people still wanting to play PS2 games out there, especially as the console reaches the very end stages of its life."

That is one of the dumbest editorial comments I have ever heard. How many people are out there "buying" NES downloads for their Wii? I still play NES, SNES and Genesis Roms. I also have an Atari 2600 that I play too. Just because a game is out dated doesn't mean it isn't played.

2717.9.2010 16:08

Originally posted by Gnawnivek:
True... not all trophies/achievements are meaningful. There's absolutely no reason to hate them though, even if you don't collect any at all. The wording of some trophies/achievements are funny as hell, it's like free little side jokes come with the game if you want to look at it that way. Metal Deer Solid in Cabela games, isn't that cute :)
I dunno I loath poor implementation in games, quality game play should be the center of gaming but its not its still flash and spectacle forget balance or polish,ect. THus my hate for it stems from gaming becoming film. Hates it we do wew do....*shuffle shuffle* mmeecchhanniiccsss......*shuffle shuffle*

Originally posted by klassic:
"While the peripheral is interesting, there cannot be too many people still wanting to play PS2 games out there, especially as the console reaches the very end stages of its life."

That is one of the dumbest editorial comments I have ever heard. How many people are out there "buying" NES downloads for their Wii? I still play NES, SNES and Genesis Roms. I also have an Atari 2600 that I play too. Just because a game is out dated doesn't mean it isn't played.
They polled new gamers people who will buy whatever branded product twice, the same kind that watch crappy film 2 or 10 times.... *shudders*

2817.9.2010 19:51

I like the HD remakes with trophies, I think Sony are making shore no one else makes it maybe.

2917.9.2010 21:32

Sony just wants to start uploading PS2 Games on PSN,
They still sell via PSS PS1 games, you think that PS2 wont sell?

3018.9.2010 08:05

I'd say sony found a new way to make more money and soon they are gonna start charging people a fee for something that will let them play ps2 games on their ps3.Remove a feature and then sell it back to the customers easy $$$$ if you ask me.

3118.9.2010 16:26

Originally posted by Gnawnivek:
True... not all trophies/achievements are meaningful. There's absolutely no reason to hate them though, even if you don't collect any at all. The wording of some trophies/achievements are funny as hell, it's like free little side jokes come with the game if you want to look at it that way. Metal Deer Solid in Cabela games, isn't that cute :)
Apart from that getting many amount to a form of mini-game in themselves.

3218.9.2010 16:34

yay. ps3 60gb works fine last time i checked. unless they removed the emotion engine emulator in an update? any info on that?

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3318.9.2010 23:12

i am sorry ps2 is good and all.. but why the F U C * did u take AWAY the damn linux support. THIS WAS ALL SOFTWARE!!!!! but u take it away!!! and now PAY A TON LOAD OF MONEY to create the piece of hardware for backwards gamming..

lets see: linux was all software.

ps2 is gonna be hardware cost alot more money to make..

ummm... ok. whatever its not my money.

3419.9.2010 05:53

http://psx-scene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=66337

I'll be installing OtherOS back on as soon as this has been figured out.

3519.9.2010 13:33

Originally posted by biglo30:
Figures they would now try and bring the feature back now that the console has been hacked.
Does anyone know where & how I can get the E-Tags code for socom combined assault ps2????

3616.1.2011 23:33
thumbgreen
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Originally posted by xnonsuchx:
Originally posted by stripelord:
Erm, I know a LOT of people who still want to play PS2 games, myself included. Saying that "there can't be that many people who still want to play PS2 games" is a gross generalization and is wholly untrue.
According to marketing polls, only around 15% of PS3 owners and prospective owners really cared about PS2-compatibility...which was likely the biggest nail in its coffin before.
Only 15% of the people that took the polls. I'm willing to bet the majority of us that want ps2 b/c never even knew about the polls being taken in the first place.

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