'Anonymous' releases NATO document

I'd love to know what they're holding back, sounds interesting.

I would use it as leverage. Continue to make arrests and they release more info.

they are going to turn the internet into a police state if they keep this up.

It's fine that these boys are "pony-ing up" with more of the Robin Hood kind of bravado, but now they really are going to be drawing fire that only so much Kevlar is going to hold back.

NATO is one thing, it's corporate America they really need to get the dirt on. Like the tripe World News got their balls lobbed off for. As I had mentioned before regarding the behavior of the elitist rich, Murdoch is still sitting in his smug corner throwing people under the bus as though he is without fault.

Myself, having come from an avenue where Operational Security is paramount, "some" things should remain out of the public forum until such a time that the impact would be lessened, but like Wikileaks - some information can get people killed... the WRONG people!

Does this mean I'm condoning Anon's actions? Not exactly, but in the current global climate; with its belligerent hypocrisy, greed & corruption to the point of making a Roman politician blush & hide to the point of implosion? Yeah, I suppose it's getting to a point that this kind of 'blackmail' is a welcome sight.

Now if they would just nut up & annihilate the corporate sector with a detrimental finite force. For god's sake, bring some humanity & humility back into the work place.

There are many things that should be classified, the problems come when EVERYTHING is classified. When everything is in the shadows, everything starts to get corrupted. We have groups in our government that won't even give information to congress during a congressional hearing. Heck, government whistle-blowers are charged with treason because the government is so used to living in the shadows that they viciously attack anyone who lets in even a spec of light...that isn't right.

If the only way to keep them from putting everything into shadows is to shine a bright light onto everything, then so be it. They can't be trusted with shadows. Besides, if the government wasn't doing so many things that can only be done from the shadows, most of our foreign enemies would be friends, and our domestic enemies in DC would have a lot less power.

Originally posted by KillerBug:

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There are many things that should be classified, the problems come when EVERYTHING is classified.

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That's why I think we need to 'super educate' the organized crime syndicates and get them out there and back into the grind again.

For some reason, I felt like there was a kind of balance when OC had a kind of hand in politics. Made the politicians think a little harder before doing stupid things. Plus it put the classified material into better perspective. Hiding a dead hooker was much more important than hiding the fact you took a kick-back from the oil companies.

Greed & money seem to make people think they have control over people even after we have them cornered, shackled & forced to see the error of their ways. Yet they still maintain their dominance. Sometimes by even buying their way out of the infraction. What other way is there there than to fight fire?

Originally posted by KillerBug:

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There are many things that should be classified, the problems come when EVERYTHING is classified. When everything is in the shadows, everything starts to get corrupted. We have groups in our government that won't even give information to congress during a congressional hearing. Heck, government whistle-blowers are charged with treason because the government is so used to living in the shadows that they viciously attack anyone who lets in even a spec of light...that isn't right.

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Generally it's done like that because the other side will get an advantage.

Much like China showing off their own F22 rator killer plane in march this year, that the USA didn't know a thing about and has completely caught them by surprise.

The USA knows so little about this plane it's not funny they assume it has a stealth paint coating from the photos and that's about it.

Releasing this HQ data will allow the Russians and China to be able to decide what nuke will make it go pop, even though the Russians probably already know about what the HQ has other countries won't, like North Korea who have no problems with throwing nuke at the USA.

Those 14 people will be screwed now as they are all in the USA and having this released is enough to be done over far worse than the terrorists.

Overall though I don't really care about Anonymous they can get fucked over for all I care, thrown in jail key chucked type stuff or just simply shot dead.

Who cares really, as they say you want to play with the big boys then you play by big boys rules, don't like it then don't play with them.

Originally posted by LordRuss:

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Originally posted by KillerBug:

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There are many things that should be classified, the problems come when EVERYTHING is classified.

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That's why I think we need to 'super educate' the organized crime syndicates and get them out there and back into the grind again.

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Like the Russian mafia?

Who kill everyone who goes against them and use the Red army to help them with removing problems?

They have killed FBI agents.

Originally posted by xtago:

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Like the Russian mafia?

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Good god no... I was thinking about a Mario Puzzo super thinking group, but with the mom & pop flair of keeping pride in what you do. Honor among thieves. You're doing a horrible thing, but in a Yin/Yang kind of concept. You know you're doing it because you have to keep the bad guys on their side of the fence and because you're willing to be the bad guy. You keep the good people (who 'think' they want to be bad) in check & keep the bad guys away from them. Otherwise... well we know how that story gets written.

That kind of 'very' organized crime...

Originally posted by LordRuss:

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Originally posted by xtago:

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Like the Russian mafia?

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Good god no... I was thinking about a Mario Puzzo super thinking group, but with the mom & pop flair of keeping pride in what you do. Honor among thieves. You're doing a horrible thing, but in a Yin/Yang kind of concept. You know you're doing it because you have to keep the bad guys on their side of the fence and because you're willing to be the bad guy. You keep the good people (who 'think' they want to be bad) in check & keep the bad guys away from them. Otherwise... well we know how that story gets written.

That kind of 'very' organized crime...

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there is a problem with your idea the old ways are dead nobody gives a Sh*t about anybody anymore save themselves, it was greed that brought the Americanized Mafia to its knees.

the issue is no one cares to teach there children fundamentals of Giving a shit anymore...when i turned 5 i learned household family rules that where and still are enforced to this very day.

Respect,Manners,Self Reliance,and integrity.

by the time i was in my early teens.I knew when to keep my mouth shut and when to open it and to touch nothing that was not my property without permission. I knew that i was to remove my hat while in the presence of Family or dining and to look a man in the eyes while speaking. I knew that if i wanted that shiny new bike i should at least fork over half of its required cost before even mentioning its purchase.i knew if somebody started trash talking me or my family i was to make them wish they never uttered a word of it.


want the world to change...start by whipping some pampered entitled asses. if you start now there might be a world left to save by the time i die.

I want to read this!

Originally posted by DXR88:

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...want the world to change...start by whipping some pampered entitled asses. if you start now there might be a world left to save by the time i die.

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You get no complaint from me... Matter of fact you might get a kick out of the rant I wrote a while back on my blog located here LINK... it's vulgar, concise & wordy as hell, but possibly a bit along the lines of agreement within the confines of this topic. However, like a lot of my stuff, I mean for most of it to be taken in a humorous, sarcastic tone.

Hope you enjoy...

Originally posted by LordRuss:

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It's fine that these boys are "pony-ing up" with more of the Robin Hood kind of bravado, but now they really are going to be drawing fire that only so much Kevlar is going to hold back.

NATO is one thing, it's corporate America they really need to get the dirt on. Like the tripe World News got their balls lobbed off for. As I had mentioned before regarding the behavior of the elitist rich, Murdoch is still sitting in his smug corner throwing people under the bus as though he is without fault.

Myself, having come from an avenue where Operational Security is paramount, "some" things should remain out of the public forum until such a time that the impact would be lessened, but like Wikileaks - some information can get people killed... the WRONG people!

Does this mean I'm condoning Anon's actions? Not exactly, but in the current global climate; with its belligerent hypocrisy, greed & corruption to the point of making a Roman politician blush & hide to the point of implosion? Yeah, I suppose it's getting to a point that this kind of 'blackmail' is a welcome sight.

Now if they would just nut up & annihilate the corporate sector with a detrimental finite force. For god's sake, bring some humanity & humility back into the work place.

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LordRuss Another 2 thumbs up. How do i keep running into u? lol

Originally posted by Dmite30:

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LordRuss Another 2 thumbs up. How do i keep running into u? lol

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I would like to think of it in a romanticized way, like tourists bumping into one another once in a while like... "Oh wow!!! Didn't think I'd see you here in the African Serengeti" or "Hot Damn! didn't think you'd be at the Floyd concert here in Melbourne!" Rather than something more like, "Hey Russ, how'd you get under that truck?"