AMD to finally release new server processors

If these are half as good as they claim, then they need to bring them to the PC market; Intel has been kicking their *** for years there. They don't even have hardware AES on their latest high-end chips...WTF?

About time AMD.

That's awesome! AMD products are always both better and cheaper than Intel's.

Originally posted by eLeCTR0n:

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That's awesome! AMD products are always both better and cheaper than Intel's.

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They are not always better...they are generally cheaper, but in terms of performance per dollar, they often cost more.

I really don't like Intel personally but their chips really are better. Heck, AMD server processors don't even support hardware encryption!

I wasn't talking about servers. In my experience they have been better in desktops since they came out with the integrated memory controller.

Eliminating the north bridge was a brilliant innovation from AMD. Now with ATI they are doing more integration with graphics chips. Graphics CPU's are decades ahead of general purpose CPU's in terms of complexity and performance. AMD can now implement a lot of that technology in its general CPU's.

Originally posted by eLeCTR0n:

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I wasn't talking about servers. In my experience they have been better in desktops since they came out with the integrated memory controller.

Eliminating the north bridge was a brilliant innovation from AMD. Now with ATI they are doing more integration with graphics chips. Graphics CPU's are decades ahead of general purpose CPU's in terms of complexity and performance. AMD can now implement a lot of that technology in its general CPU's.

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Their desktop chips are sad too...in terms of MFLOPS/dollar they are about even with Intel in some areas, and below intel in other areas. Again, no hardware AES...that cuts the performance significantly in many operations.

I've been putting off upgrading my quad-core AMD for a while now...the lack of hardware AES means that a hex core AMD wouldn't be much of a upgrade, and I really don't want to buy an Intel Sandybridge because of the hardware DRM...but it is starting to look like I have no choice; AMD is taking forever to get around to making a new desktop processor series...and I somewhat doubt that they will include hardware AES anyway.

As for their graphics division, they are doing some good stuff...but they really aren't very far ahead of nVidia. In fact, nVidia has some very useful features on the desktop cards that ATI only offers on their workstation cards.