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Nintendo looks to new consoles to change fortunes

Written by James Delahunty @ 08 May 2014 6:10 User comments (29)

Nintendo looks to new consoles to change fortunes Nintendo will develop and sell new hardware consoles aimed at emerging markets as it fights to climb out of a global slump it has fallen into in recent years.
Despite having a head start of a year, Nintendo's Wii U sales are actually lower than that of Sony's PlayStation 4 (PS4) consoles, despite the latter only launching in the holiday season in 2013. Consumers in major western markets are overlooking Nintendo's latest hardware and it is showing on the bottom line in big red figures.

In an effort to turn itself around, Nintendo will look for growth through the development and sale of new hardware. This hardware will be aimed at emerging markets and will not simply be cut downs of the Wii U and other items it sells.

"We want to make new things, with new thinking rather than a cheaper version of what we currently have," Nintendo President Satoru Iwata said, reports Bloomberg.



"The product and price balance must be made from scratch."

The timing is good considering that China only recently lifted its decade+ ban on video game console sales in the country, although there are still considerable factors to take into account launching in China.

Nintendo reported a net loss of 33.4 billion yen (US$329 million) in Q1 this year, much higher than the 27.9 billion yen loss predicted by analysts.

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18.5.2014 13:08

Too bad Nintendo is insistent on making shitty hardware. If they just became a software company and developed their IP for the other consoles they would make a boat load of money. I would love to see a HD version of Mario cart playing on my 46 in HDTV running on my PS4. Come on Nintendo....utilize the established leaders in the hardware market and just make games. Mario, Zelda, Donkey Kong.... this would excite people about your company again.... Not shoddy hardware.

28.5.2014 15:26

It will be a sad day when Nintendo bites the dust.

I think what we all really want is Nintendo 64 HD that plays Goldeneye.

38.5.2014 21:05

Originally posted by Ripper:
It will be a sad day when Nintendo bites the dust.

I think what we all really want is Nintendo 64 HD that plays Goldeneye.
I hope they don't die, but simply transform into a software company. They're sitting on a gold mine with all of their IPs. Porting to the Big Two could net them a nice profit. I've read all the naysayers who think Nintendo is fine the way they are and have plenty of revenue to survive, but the simple fact is Nintendo, as it exists today, is a one-trick pony. Microsoft & Sony can afford to take losses on their consoles because they have other revenue streams to make up the deficits; Nintendo must remain (or return to being) innovative to remain relevant if they wish to survive. I truly hope they don't become the next ColecoVision.

49.5.2014 03:26

ANybody that knows anything about business knows diversifying ones portfolio can be a great idea, I think Nintendo might be on target here.

As for all the fanboys it goes to show things never change and the U.S. is great at turning everything into fads. "Nintendo Bites the dust" when was the last time you looked at their annual financial reports and cash on hand? you would know Nintendo is far from biting the dust and the only reason these reports get this spin is because investors are pissed off in expectations that a company must always grow regardless which is unrealistic.

"Nintendo's Crap hardware" In respects to what comparison? The PC? Microsoft brought the PC to your TV not Nintendo, and if we would like to compare specs in that respect the Xbox is an outdated PC in a box in front of a TV with an 6-8 year life span being blatantly obvious when cross platform titles are more aesthetically pleasing on the PC. So if its eye candy you want well why do you bother with the price of a Sony or Xbox? The PC is the only one keeping up with the current demands on video processing.

"Microsoft & Sony can afford to take losses on their consoles" Yeah Sony is laying off how many employees and shutting down what divisions? M$ dumped the last lead of the XBOX division and quickly brought in a new Manager to try and change the sales on the new console who continuously refuses to even attempt the handheld gaming market when claiming to be a "Premier" gaming company...... Yeah they are just throwing money like it doesn't matter aren't they.

oh and lastly my favorite "Nintendo should just start making software for the other consoles" This one tells me the people ranting on Nintendo haven't played any of their systems since the 64 and in that case there's entire Rom sets and emulators out their for you to play your little heart out!

I know its not cool to brag about the new Mario or Smash Bros title at school and to maintain your hard ass cool image better play it safe and talk about how awesome you are at COD, but its those who have owned all the consoles and understand they are all unique in their own respects. Unlike M$ & Sony Nintendo focus's on creating a new way of playing their software every generation, how do you port skyward swords? How do you play Mario Kart with a Steering wheel on anything but a Wii or Wii U? those are just 2 examples, how would you have the awesomeness of your inventory on a screen in your hand or play Luigi's Mansion on Nintendo Land oh... a PS4 with a Vita you say? $400 + $200 sure that's a reasonable price for the setup.

Taking a look at Nintendos library you would find porting many of the games would be nearly impossible without losing the way in which you play which ads to the experience. And to all the Eye Candy Kiddo's rocking the trend keep saying what you will but remember I have been listening to the "Exact" same garbage since the Sega Genesis Released Mortal Kombat without censoring the blood.

Nintendo's sales have certainly been tough this generation but then again so Has Microsoft's and wasn't it last generation everyone was singing the same tune about Sony's PS3? There's always gonna be someone last in line on sales. The point is stop bashing what everyone knows to be an awesome product and own them all and enjoy them for what they are and keep console gaming alive! Fanboyism shows nothing more than a child strapped for cash who can only afford one of them or is insecure in admitting a like for something outside the "Trend" in fear of opposition from their peers.

59.5.2014 10:11

Originally posted by Menion:
ANybody that knows anything about business knows diversifying ones portfolio can be a great idea, I think Nintendo might be on target here.

As for all the fanboys it goes to show things never change and the U.S. is great at turning everything into fads. "Nintendo Bites the dust" when was the last time you looked at their annual financial reports and cash on hand? you would know Nintendo is far from biting the dust and the only reason these reports get this spin is because investors are pissed off in expectations that a company must always grow regardless which is unrealistic.

"Nintendo's Crap hardware" In respects to what comparison? The PC? Microsoft brought the PC to your TV not Nintendo, and if we would like to compare specs in that respect the Xbox is an outdated PC in a box in front of a TV with an 6-8 year life span being blatantly obvious when cross platform titles are more aesthetically pleasing on the PC. So if its eye candy you want well why do you bother with the price of a Sony or Xbox? The PC is the only one keeping up with the current demands on video processing.

"Microsoft & Sony can afford to take losses on their consoles" Yeah Sony is laying off how many employees and shutting down what divisions? M$ dumped the last lead of the XBOX division and quickly brought in a new Manager to try and change the sales on the new console who continuously refuses to even attempt the handheld gaming market when claiming to be a "Premier" gaming company...... Yeah they are just throwing money like it doesn't matter aren't they.

oh and lastly my favorite "Nintendo should just start making software for the other consoles" This one tells me the people ranting on Nintendo haven't played any of their systems since the 64 and in that case there's entire Rom sets and emulators out their for you to play your little heart out!

I know its not cool to brag about the new Mario or Smash Bros title at school and to maintain your hard ass cool image better play it safe and talk about how awesome you are at COD, but its those who have owned all the consoles and understand they are all unique in their own respects. Unlike M$ & Sony Nintendo focus's on creating a new way of playing their software every generation, how do you port skyward swords? How do you play Mario Kart with a Steering wheel on anything but a Wii or Wii U? those are just 2 examples, how would you have the awesomeness of your inventory on a screen in your hand or play Luigi's Mansion on Nintendo Land oh... a PS4 with a Vita you say? $400 + $200 sure that's a reasonable price for the setup.

Taking a look at Nintendos library you would find porting many of the games would be nearly impossible without losing the way in which you play which ads to the experience. And to all the Eye Candy Kiddo's rocking the trend keep saying what you will but remember I have been listening to the "Exact" same garbage since the Sega Genesis Released Mortal Kombat without censoring the blood.

Nintendo's sales have certainly been tough this generation but then again so Has Microsoft's and wasn't it last generation everyone was singing the same tune about Sony's PS3? There's always gonna be someone last in line on sales. The point is stop bashing what everyone knows to be an awesome product and own them all and enjoy them for what they are and keep console gaming alive! Fanboyism shows nothing more than a child strapped for cash who can only afford one of them or is insecure in admitting a like for something outside the "Trend" in fear of opposition from their peers.
Well said.

69.5.2014 13:15

Quote:
Well said.
And silence follows....

But agreed, most points were validated and Nintendo is far from out of the game. However I personally believe Iwata should step down and let fresh blood take over. Investors are starting to wonder the same thing. Still have to admire Iwata's passion, even if his steps on governing Nintendo are getting stale. I also still believe it would be a huge help for Nintendo if they actually let Reggie have power on western releases, at least for US.

Let Nintendo of America not need Nintendo of Japan's permission for every little choice or change; to actually accept there are cultural differences that we understand better than they do. At least Reggie decide which has enough fan base to port over Japanese games, or what hardware modifications are needed to be a system seller. Reggie also has some innovative ways to take Nintendo of America to new heights but constantly gets refused despite having a voice by Nintendo of Japan.

Sony once upon a time nearly made that mistake with PS brand, but now look how far that brand has come with Karai at the helm. Sure he's from Japan but he also listens to what Americans want, which is a good first step. Yes they had to lay off, and close down divisions, but those are also the necessary hard steps to take in order for a company to restructure in the form of potential growth. Steps older CEO's had issues making (looking at you Jack).

Now I am not a fan-boy; it don't matter which console manufacturer to me wins a war as I want them to all win. More competition = more games = more greatness. I like the idea of owning a console that a friend may not have, and taking games over there and saying you need to try this and dare them to stop playing after an hour. Most cases they don't. That's what I don't want to stop, and that even went for Wii-U titles, though I will admit I could sure use a few more to do that with... (Where's my Zelda update?)

79.5.2014 13:22

Who pissed in your cornflakes Menion?

Originally posted by Menion:
As for all the fanboys it goes to show things never change and the U.S. is great at turning everything into fads. "Nintendo Bites the dust" when was the last time you looked at their annual financial reports and cash on hand? you would know Nintendo is far from biting the dust and the only reason these reports get this spin is because investors are pissed off in expectations that a company must always grow regardless which is unrealistic.
I'm not from the US so I can see why you may be confused but I wasn't actually suggesting Nintendo are going to just crash and burn in the immediate future. My comment was merely a tongue-in-cheek reflection of my opinion that it will be a shame if going forward their strategy ends up being cheapo hardware directed at "emerging markets" and "strengthening economies". Nokia, anyone?

Anyway, I own a Wii; got to Pro on all of the sports. No hard feelings.

Edit:

Originally posted by Mysttic:
However I personally believe Iwata should step down and let fresh blood take over.
Yes. Nintendo is another textbook example of stodgy old Japanese businessmen making outdated moves. Sony Ericsson is a good example.
This message has been edited since its posting. Latest edit was made on 09 May 2014 @ 4:02

89.5.2014 15:11

In your arrogance to look down your nose at everyone, you are completely missing the point. There is not one comment to this article that says that anyone wants Nintendo to die off. I believe that all the opinions are that everyone wants to see Nintendo succeed, but the only way they are gonna do that it to develop their IP for the other consoles.

Nintendo has a potential gold mine if they would just get off their high horse and realize that the hardware has passed them by years ago. They are too stupid to realize that they are giving up 100's of millions of game related sales by only offering their IP on their systems. We'll, people just are not buying in anymore( wii U). Tell me that a Mario or Zelda or Mario cart game brought out for PS4,XBone, PS3, and 360 wouldn't set preorder records. Of course they would, and Nintendo would have to hire more people, just to count all the $ they would rake in.

99.5.2014 18:07

Multi consoles are a thing of the past, make one console with a miumiun and let vendors build it however they can. You can make money off what they make and the software you develop.

109.5.2014 20:04

Put it this way I wouldn't buy another. To blow off 180 quid on a console that they no longer support, but still selling stock will not see me returning to the Nintendo fold anytime.

OK it's had a bad start, but to dis it so early, well to be honest it sucks...

Shame on you Nintendo, shame on you.....

119.5.2014 20:29

Originally posted by mightyzog:
Too bad Nintendo is insistent on making shitty hardware. If they just became a software company and developed their IP for the other consoles they would make a boat load of money. I would love to see a HD version of Mario cart playing on my 46 in HDTV running on my PS4. Come on Nintendo....utilize the established leaders in the hardware market and just make games. Mario, Zelda, Donkey Kong.... this would excite people about your company again.... Not shoddy hardware.


What is your definition of shitty? It certainly cannot mean their history of well built and reliable hardware. Or the fact that their software is often designed to work with the hardware they make seemlessly. I am guess your definition is entirely about cores and ram and specs.

Seeing as Nintendo is still financially stable I do not EVER see Nintendo becoming a software only company making games for other platforms so if you want to play Nintendo games I suggest you invest in a Nintendo. I am sure you will love Mario Kart and Smash Bros and Zelda in all their HD glory on the Wii U just fine.
This message has been edited since its posting. Latest edit was made on 10 May 2014 @ 12:16

1210.5.2014 00:04

Originally posted by mightyzog:
Too bad Nintendo is insistent on making shitty hardware. If they just became a software company and developed their IP for the other consoles they would make a boat load of money. I would love to see a HD version of Mario cart playing on my 46 in HDTV running on my PS4. Come on Nintendo....utilize the established leaders in the hardware market and just make games. Mario, Zelda, Donkey Kong.... this would excite people about your company again.... Not shoddy hardware.



No thanks, the video game needs competition which is better for the consumer. You want to play Nintendo games, buy a Nintendo console.

And for some of the others on this forums. Nintendo is only making new concoles which are cheaper for emerging markets, not established markets like the US, Japan and so on.
This message has been edited since its posting. Latest edit was made on 10 May 2014 @ 12:07

1310.5.2014 10:26

Originally posted by Ripper:
It will be a sad day when Nintendo bites the dust.

I think what we all really want is Nintendo 64 HD that plays Goldeneye.
Oh boy......I'm so glad you said this as now I'm really nostalgic!

Nintendo just needs to cater to BOTH young and old gamers.

1411.5.2014 03:05

Originally posted by bobiroc:

What is your definition of shitty? It certainly cannot mean their history of well built and reliable hardware. Or the fact that their software is often designed to work with the hardware they make seemlessly. I am guess your definition is entirely about cores and ram and specs.

It isn't just a matter of quality (although the Wii had some very serious issues for a while and the NES cartridge slot was terrible). The hardware specs are also reliably behind Sony and Microsot, but I can ignore that to. To me the main issue with Nintendo is the controls...the N64 was designed for someone with three hands (one of these hands with two thumbs). The Wii started with a TV remote, then someone got the idea that if you cut a DS3 into three parts, threw one away, and wired the other two together that would be really great. It appealed to some non-traditional gamers and to kids who like any excuse to jump around, but the quality was junk and the movements didn't match the movement on the screen...meaning the only games that actually benefited were the sports multi-packs. I REALLY wanted the Wii to be half-good. I'm no Nintendo fan boy...I just wanted a good "lightgun" gaming platform, and the poor cursor/pointer alignment combined with the slow movement combined with the jumpiness you get in a room without perfect light conditions killed that. There were tons of rail shooters and "gun" accessories, but none fixed those issues. Now the WiiU has some kind of tablet-with-part-of-a-SNES-controller thing going on. The devs can't seem to find a good use for the touchscreen and that's no wonder...they would have done better to just finally fix the Wii controls...at least developers had some interesting ideas for the WiiMote...and if they wanted to appeal to the 3rd world a $100 console would be a good start.

1511.5.2014 05:49

Originally posted by bobiroc:
Originally posted by mightyzog:
Too bad Nintendo is insistent on making shitty hardware. If they just became a software company and developed their IP for the other consoles they would make a boat load of money. I would love to see a HD version of Mario cart playing on my 46 in HDTV running on my PS4. Come on Nintendo....utilize the established leaders in the hardware market and just make games. Mario, Zelda, Donkey Kong.... this would excite people about your company again.... Not shoddy hardware.


What is your definition of shitty? It certainly cannot mean their history of well built and reliable hardware. Or the fact that their software is often designed to work with the hardware they make seemlessly. I am guess your definition is entirely about cores and ram and specs.

Seeing as Nintendo is still financially stable I do not EVER see Nintendo becoming a software only company making games for other platforms so if you want to play Nintendo games I suggest you invest in a Nintendo. I am sure you will love Mario Kart and Smash Bros and Zelda in all their HD glory on the Wii U just fine.
i havn't seem much hd on nintendo,personally from what i've seen majority of there games are over colourful kid games, thats why i don't own a nintendo.

@killerbug the sports pack and the wii sold a lot cause it was marketted as an exercise tool as well as a game and it did get sales by a lot of women wanting to get fit in the privacy of there own home.
the ds brain training (& similar things)was marketted as educational and sold a lot when it first came out due to it being educational.
The gimmicks helped sales and the tactics worked.

i think nintendo needs to get more big name games (you know ones that sell like hot cakes on sony/xbox).they need user friendly controls.They need better advertising.

1611.5.2014 06:46

Quote:
i think nintendo needs to get more big name games (you know ones that sell like hot cakes on sony/xbox).they need user friendly controls.They need better advertising.

Well up until recently Call of Duty was generally always released for the Wii. I played through COD 3 on Wii (the first COD released for Wii) and it was a bit of gimmicky fun.

1711.5.2014 11:34

Originally posted by xboxdvl2:
Originally posted by bobiroc:
Originally posted by mightyzog:
Too bad Nintendo is insistent on making shitty hardware. If they just became a software company and developed their IP for the other consoles they would make a boat load of money. I would love to see a HD version of Mario cart playing on my 46 in HDTV running on my PS4. Come on Nintendo....utilize the established leaders in the hardware market and just make games. Mario, Zelda, Donkey Kong.... this would excite people about your company again.... Not shoddy hardware.


What is your definition of shitty? It certainly cannot mean their history of well built and reliable hardware. Or the fact that their software is often designed to work with the hardware they make seemlessly. I am guess your definition is entirely about cores and ram and specs.

Seeing as Nintendo is still financially stable I do not EVER see Nintendo becoming a software only company making games for other platforms so if you want to play Nintendo games I suggest you invest in a Nintendo. I am sure you will love Mario Kart and Smash Bros and Zelda in all their HD glory on the Wii U just fine.
i havn't seem much hd on nintendo,personally from what i've seen majority of there games are over colourful kid games, thats why i don't own a nintendo.

@killerbug the sports pack and the wii sold a lot cause it was marketted as an exercise tool as well as a game and it did get sales by a lot of women wanting to get fit in the privacy of there own home.
the ds brain training (& similar things)was marketted as educational and sold a lot when it first came out due to it being educational.
The gimmicks helped sales and the tactics worked.

i think nintendo needs to get more big name games (you know ones that sell like hot cakes on sony/xbox).they need user friendly controls.They need better advertising.
You mean realistic looking games? Because hd is hd no matter what the color is lol. I'm sorry I just never heard someone refer to it that way.

1811.5.2014 11:34

Originally posted by xboxdvl2:
Originally posted by bobiroc:
Originally posted by mightyzog:
Too bad Nintendo is insistent on making shitty hardware. If they just became a software company and developed their IP for the other consoles they would make a boat load of money. I would love to see a HD version of Mario cart playing on my 46 in HDTV running on my PS4. Come on Nintendo....utilize the established leaders in the hardware market and just make games. Mario, Zelda, Donkey Kong.... this would excite people about your company again.... Not shoddy hardware.


What is your definition of shitty? It certainly cannot mean their history of well built and reliable hardware. Or the fact that their software is often designed to work with the hardware they make seemlessly. I am guess your definition is entirely about cores and ram and specs.

Seeing as Nintendo is still financially stable I do not EVER see Nintendo becoming a software only company making games for other platforms so if you want to play Nintendo games I suggest you invest in a Nintendo. I am sure you will love Mario Kart and Smash Bros and Zelda in all their HD glory on the Wii U just fine.
i havn't seem much hd on nintendo,personally from what i've seen majority of there games are over colourful kid games, thats why i don't own a nintendo.

@killerbug the sports pack and the wii sold a lot cause it was marketted as an exercise tool as well as a game and it did get sales by a lot of women wanting to get fit in the privacy of there own home.
the ds brain training (& similar things)was marketted as educational and sold a lot when it first came out due to it being educational.
The gimmicks helped sales and the tactics worked.

i think nintendo needs to get more big name games (you know ones that sell like hot cakes on sony/xbox).they need user friendly controls.They need better advertising.
You mean realistic looking games? Because hd is hd no matter what the color is lol. I'm sorry I just never heard someone refer to it that way.

1911.5.2014 12:12

Originally posted by deucezulu22:
Originally posted by xboxdvl2:
Originally posted by bobiroc:
Originally posted by mightyzog:
Too bad Nintendo is insistent on making shitty hardware. If they just became a software company and developed their IP for the other consoles they would make a boat load of money. I would love to see a HD version of Mario cart playing on my 46 in HDTV running on my PS4. Come on Nintendo....utilize the established leaders in the hardware market and just make games. Mario, Zelda, Donkey Kong.... this would excite people about your company again.... Not shoddy hardware.


What is your definition of shitty? It certainly cannot mean their history of well built and reliable hardware. Or the fact that their software is often designed to work with the hardware they make seemlessly. I am guess your definition is entirely about cores and ram and specs.

Seeing as Nintendo is still financially stable I do not EVER see Nintendo becoming a software only company making games for other platforms so if you want to play Nintendo games I suggest you invest in a Nintendo. I am sure you will love Mario Kart and Smash Bros and Zelda in all their HD glory on the Wii U just fine.
i havn't seem much hd on nintendo,personally from what i've seen majority of there games are over colourful kid games, thats why i don't own a nintendo.

@killerbug the sports pack and the wii sold a lot cause it was marketted as an exercise tool as well as a game and it did get sales by a lot of women wanting to get fit in the privacy of there own home.
the ds brain training (& similar things)was marketted as educational and sold a lot when it first came out due to it being educational.
The gimmicks helped sales and the tactics worked.

i think nintendo needs to get more big name games (you know ones that sell like hot cakes on sony/xbox).they need user friendly controls.They need better advertising.
You mean realistic looking games? Because hd is hd no matter what the color is lol. I'm sorry I just never heard someone refer to it that way.
yeah i mean realistic looking games.

2011.5.2014 19:21

Realistic looking (or at least playing) games with good controls would have been great a year ago...but then Sony and Microsoft released consoles to snag the people who wanted that but didn't want a PC. They know they are too late to get in on this generation...they know their controller won't grab the oddball gamers like the WiiMote did...they know they have gone too far to revitalize the old Wii with a slightly better graphics chip, a good sensor, and a HDMI port. Worse, their old standby of portables keeps shrinking due to the fact that they don't make phones...and if they tried it would be a disaster.

So...what are their options? We know they have no interest in high performance hardware. We know they don't want to be the super-cheap company anymore; that's why they killed the Wii. We know they don't want good controls...if they did that they would just be a weaker version of Sony/Microsoft. Moving their franchises to other platforms (including iOS/Android) would make a lot of money...but they won't do that.

So...given their limitations and what they just won't do, here is an idea that I'm sure they will hate: Start with a basic console...cheap hardware, a small hard drive, and a BD drive. HDMI is a must...but 720P is good enough. Then the controller is just an obvious copy of the PS Move, with exact dimensions given out long before launch so it can launch with lots of aftermarket attachments. It should also have USB HID support for aftermarket DS3 knock-offs. A very simply obvious solution...that they won't do.

2111.5.2014 19:26

The WII U is good enough from a software point of view but the lack of focus on standardized controls, ease of development, relations with other devs its just not worth the effort to develop for it for most devs.

2211.5.2014 22:46

Originally posted by ZippyDSM:
The WII U is good enough from a software point of view but the lack of focus on standardized controls, ease of development, relations with other devs its just not worth the effort to develop for it for most devs.
Yes, their GUI is just fine...unfortunately those picky gamers want a console that does more than sit at the homepage.

2311.5.2014 23:12

Originally posted by KillerBug:
Originally posted by ZippyDSM:
The WII U is good enough from a software point of view but the lack of focus on standardized controls, ease of development, relations with other devs its just not worth the effort to develop for it for most devs.
Yes, their GUI is just fine...unfortunately those picky gamers want a console that does more than sit at the homepage.
Sadly the ones complaining would not be able to tell the difference.

2412.5.2014 10:35

Originally posted by ZippyDSM:
Originally posted by KillerBug:
Originally posted by ZippyDSM:
The WII U is good enough from a software point of view but the lack of focus on standardized controls, ease of development, relations with other devs its just not worth the effort to develop for it for most devs.
Yes, their GUI is just fine...unfortunately those picky gamers want a console that does more than sit at the homepage.
Sadly the ones complaining would not be able to tell the difference.
You can tell the difference without even owning a TV...just go to the store and look for the WiiU version of the latest blockbuster. Then hold each of the 3 controllers in your hands...some will like the Xbox controller, some will like the Playstation, some might wander over to the PC section and like something from Logitech or Razor...no one likes the WiiU controller.

2512.5.2014 10:51

Originally posted by KillerBug:
Originally posted by ZippyDSM:
Originally posted by KillerBug:
Originally posted by ZippyDSM:
The WII U is good enough from a software point of view but the lack of focus on standardized controls, ease of development, relations with other devs its just not worth the effort to develop for it for most devs.
Yes, their GUI is just fine...unfortunately those picky gamers want a console that does more than sit at the homepage.
Sadly the ones complaining would not be able to tell the difference.
You can tell the difference without even owning a TV...just go to the store and look for the WiiU version of the latest blockbuster. Then hold each of the 3 controllers in your hands...some will like the Xbox controller, some will like the Playstation, some might wander over to the PC section and like something from Logitech or Razor...no one likes the WiiU controller.
Meh if they are that much a graphic slut they are worthless. And the CLassic pro controller on the WII/WIIU is as good as the rest. Hell the waggle mote and numb chuck do the job well enough, the WIIUpad is a bit cumbersome but useable.

My main gripe is precision, the WII/WIIU lacks it since they focus on the waggle a bit to much which puts off third party devs from porting stuff over. The trouble with offering so many control options its added cost on the devs part and that's the main problem as I see it, without packing a classic pro controller in every unit box and making sure its a main option for cheap ass companies to port their shit over you lose revenue momentum.

Graphics are the least of its worries.

/rant

2612.5.2014 17:19

Originally posted by ZippyDSM:
The WII U is good enough from a software point of view but the lack of focus on standardized controls, ease of development, relations with other devs its just not worth the effort to develop for it for most devs.
+1...This is what is hurting Nintendo; when big developers shun your console, it's bad news. Yeah, everyone knows most the new COD games are more of the same, just a shiny new wrapper (if even that), but they still sell like hotcakes. -by not even offering Advanced Warfare on the WiiU, Nintendo is missing out on potential console sales. How many? Who knows. Hard to say. Could be thousands....

2712.5.2014 17:47

Originally posted by DarthMopar:
Originally posted by ZippyDSM:
The WII U is good enough from a software point of view but the lack of focus on standardized controls, ease of development, relations with other devs its just not worth the effort to develop for it for most devs.
+1...This is what is hurting Nintendo; when big developers shun your console, it's bad news. Yeah, everyone knows most the new COD games are more of the same, just a shiny new wrapper (if even that), but they still sell like hotcakes. -by not even offering Advanced Warfare on the WiiU, Nintendo is missing out on potential console sales. How many? Who knows. Hard to say. Could be thousands....

To be fair CoD for Nintendo gets announced leading up to the holidays.


2812.5.2014 20:19



To be fair CoD for Nintendo gets announced leading up to the holidays.


Fair enough...I was going off of the official COD website that is advertising availability for PS3 & 4, Xbox 360 & One, and PC. No mention of Wii or WiiU.
http://www.callofduty.com/advancedwarfare/buy

COD was only an example off the top of my head....just seems like Nintendo has been taking it on the chin from a lot of developers, lately. (EA)
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2929.5.2014 18:09

This is nice.

http://youtu.be/eMQySEjyCUw?t=2m31s




Edit: Gamecube controller adapter for the Wii U.

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